There are memes like “when you have to prove that you’re jewish” or crass jokes about people standing out due to their lack of foreskin, but i remember hearing that a huge swathes of American men are circumcised - it’s like 49%. Jesus.

If literally half of every men are circumcised, why is it even a remarkable topic to Americans? How did it become such a meme?

  • ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com
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    I got pushback when I told my ex and docs no to chopping my kid despite having been so myself.

    ‘But it’s cleaner and easier to manage…’

    Don’t care, unless you can give a medical need reason he can make that choice as an adult if he wants.

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        The one “truth” is that it “reduces the risk of cancer”… Because technically chopping anything off reduces the risk of cancer, because that thing can no longer get it.

        However foreskin cancer is not exactly a high cause for concern, and by this logic cutting off your ears and nose would be more logical.

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    I wonder what kind of parent is okay with sexually mutilating their child. That sounds just fucked up.

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        I fear every religion and society that imposes that on children suffers from a very sordid case of “author’s kink”. If you’re born with it and are not suffering from it, there is absolutely no fucking reason in the universe to cut out the foreskin of a boy or the clitoris of a girl. What the absolute fuck, mankind.

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      The rate of circumcision has been dropping in large part due to the millennial generation refusing to do so to our own children.

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        Millennials just out here casually making the world a slightly less horrible place for people to grow up in, in very measurable statistics that only they have direct control of, and that unambiguously cannot be attributed to any other generation, despite getting relentlessly manipulated, economically rugpulled and politically sabotaged their entire lives.

        Fucking millennials are so obnoxious, amirite? lol avocado toast or whatever! /s

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          We’re stuck being the maintenance team for the boomers as they actively shit themselves but wont get out of the way of progress, or even the normal progression of life.

          We’re trapped in the job market right as they rugpull the whole fucking thing.

          I feel for genz. Their attitude to work is right on the money.

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    It might be hard to wrap your head around it, but there are people on the internet who are not from the US.

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    Americans tend to punch down with jokes on men who are not circumcised. There is a lot of social pressure to circumcise our boys here.

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        Which circumstance? The meme that OP linked or the crass jokes about people that don’t have foreskin?

        Jokes in America tend to put uncircumcised men as the punch line or target of the joke. That’s why I used the phrase “punch down”. Men who aren’t circumcised tend to be made fun of in the US because of the societal pressure we have to circumcise at birth.

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    I feel like I you answered your own question.

    If roughly half of all American men are circumcised, then that means that there is a predictable binary status men can hold in that regard. People will focus on a dichotomy simply because it exists.

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      In my experience, the strongest critics of MGM are victims of circumcision. There are some brainwashed people who don’t see what the big deal is, but people with normal penises (and women) don’t seem to care much one way or the other.

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        I was circumcised and my penis seems to work just fine. I do have to say that I couldn’t care much less about the topic.

        Yes, ironic that I clicked this thread at all, but I’m bored.

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            I’m quite capable of judging my own general satisfaction in a vacuum. I strongly suspect this matters a lot less than some people think - some men are just overly obsessed with their penises.

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            If you’ve never experienced having a circumcized penis (as someone old enough to be consciously aware of having a penis) how could you know it doesn’t work just fine?

            The only people who can comparatively answer are people of an age of sexual maturity who have fully experienced all uses of a penis both with and without a foreskin.

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          Your penis doesn’t work just fine if you were circumcised. You are one of the brainwashed people I was talking about.

          Read about the function of the foreskin, which is way more than a bit of hanging skin on the end of your member, it’s a sensitive and double-sided tissue that keeps your internal bits where they belong.

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            Sounds like you have an inferiority complex or something. It does everything I need it to and I’m completely satisfied with it. You feeling like I should not be satisfied with my penis sounds like a you problem.

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    It’s just another sign that the US is actually owned by the Zionist movement.

    Not only do they get the US into wars and control their policies and politics with “donations” (i.e. bribes), they also get you to mutilate your baby boys.

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      It’s odd that you think Israel is responsible for a practice that was common long before Israel existed.

      Puritans are the reason for the practice in the US, not Jewish people.

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      Circumcision is a Zionist practice? What about celebrating Hanukkah? Is that Zionist?

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    As a circumsized man, I don’t even know what all the fuss is about. Shit’s easier to clean and if there was any sensitivity loss from it, then I think I would have been a premature ejaculator if I wasn’t cut.

    The argument that it’s cruel to a baby is valid; but most of the time, I’m seeing arguments from men who have no foreskin seemingly lamenting the loss of something they never really knew in the first place.

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      I think maybe you nailed exactly what the fuss is all about.

      If no one had ever been circumcised before, and you pitched the idea of infant genital mutilation/modification, do you really believe any proposed benefits could possibly outweigh the revulsion of elective surgery on a baby?

      I get it: no one should be judged for whether they are circumcised or not, and I can absolutely forgive people who have circumcised their babies for “normalcy” in the past. But the conversation right now it “what are we even doing here, guys?”

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      The sensitivity loss thing is mostly an internet myth, most studies on it show no difference with some studies reporting increased sensitivity instead. The foreskin does have nerve endings, but those are mostly “touch” nerves and aren’t really the nerves that contribute to pleasure/arousal.

      As anecdotal evidence, I have a family member who got circumcised as an adult due to medical issues, and he’s very positive about it. I haven’t questioned him on if he had a change in sensation, but I know he’s happy with the outcome.

      While I’m talking about benefits, I’ll mention it lowers penile cancer risk, reduces the chance of UTIs, reduces the chance of some STDs, and prevents phimosis/paraphimosis. Only real negative I’m aware of is the procedure itself.

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        I’d be interested to see those studies. Anecdotally, the nerves on the foreskin can absolutely contribute to pleasure/arousal just as almost any nerves on the body can do so. I wonder what criteria they’re basing that on and what differences they found.

        Usually when people get circumcised as an adult, it’s because of health issues like phimosis where the foreskin is unable to retract over the penis glans. So yeah, I’m sure your family member was quite happy to have his penis work better when it gets hard.

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          Here’s a study on it. Basically the foreskin nerves are “touch” nerves, and all touch nerves get reduced sensation with arousal. The number of those touch nerves drops significantly with age as well, with a 90% reduction by the time your 45+. It’s other nerves (mainly in the corona and near the frenulum) that are focused on vibration and temperature, which mainly contribute to pleasure.

          Ultimately the “ejaculatory latency time” doesn’t show a difference, even across various reasons for a difference in the quantity of touch nerves.

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        The sensitivity loss thing is mostly an internet myth, most studies on it show no difference with some studies reporting increased sensitivity instead

        It’s worth pointing out as a myth, it vastly predates the internet. The reason it’s common in the USA, is because the puritans believed it would make it easier to stop kids from masturbating.

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            Teenagers will jerk off to anything. I’m sure some neolithic cave teenagers were jerkin it to boob shaped rocks or baboon asses. Hormones gonna hormone.

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      When both “conventional wisdom” and our pediatrician advised it for hygiene and as something almost always harmless, and everyone I know had it done, I had no facts to decide against it for my sons

      It’s normal. Almost always no negatives. reduces dick cheese

      I realize there are horror stories but like with vaccines they are vanishingly rare

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        It’s normal. Almost always no negatives. reduces dick cheese

        It’s not normal. What’s normal is allowing the natural design of the penis and foreskin to remain intact.

        Wanna reduce dick cheese? Teach your sons how to clean their dicks.