• GodlessCommie@lemmy.worldOPMEnglish
    9421·
    5 天前

    Normally I wouldnt do some thing like this but those opposed to holding them accountable should be called out too

    • Björn@swg-empire.de
      352·
      4 天前

      Can’t believe that I’m defending downvoters. But downvoting does not always mean that they disagree with the message of a post. Some even just use it as a “mark as read” button, some fat fingered, some might think it doesn’t belong in this community.

      • Aniki@feddit.org
        6·
        4 天前

        yeah i was gonna say, i support the post’s message but i don’t see it as a “late stage capitalism” thing. these things happen even outside late stage capitalism, so that’s rather unrelated.

        (i upvoted btw)

        might be better into the world news, political or sth community

      • merdaverse@lemmy.zip
        38·
        4 天前

        They are free to argue in the comments if they don’t agree with the post itself, otherwise it’s fine to assume that they are crypto-zionists and shame them.

    • BigTwerp@feddit.uk
      151·
      4 天前

      I habitually downvote anything referring to the site formerly known as twitter, especially if it’s a pointless screenshot. Glad I read a bit further into this one if that is your attitude.

      Why is the screenshot even nessecary? Does somebody think that posting on X is somehow more legitimate than anywhere else?

      I also downvote about 10 posts a day entirely by accident because the downvote button on my screen is about 4 pixels and rests in the natural scroll area.

      My point is that a downvote probably doesn’t always mean what you think it does.

    • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world
      16·
      4 天前

      Shoutout to you, OP. More users should be shamed. Would love to see these genocide defending twats defend their votes.

    • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
      1435·
      5 天前

      Votes are technically public, so technically there’s nothing wrong with this, but doxxing voters still feels slimey.

      • GodlessCommie@lemmy.worldOPMEnglish
        351·
        4 天前

        Doxxing implies I provided personally identifying info like home addresses, work locations, telephone numbers, other social media accounts, etc.

        • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
          617·
          4 天前

          You know what I meant. Encouraging brigading, to be more precise.

          Lemmy keeps that info hidden by default for a reason.

            • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
              911·
              4 天前

              Even then, I think it’s a bad precedent. It makes Lemmy feel toxic.

              I don’t think votes should be private (as that leads to all sorts of complications, especially with fighting bots/spammers), but I think Lemmy/Piefed should encourage a culture of not highlighting it, unless it’s strictly for a spammer or some other objective rules violation.

            • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
              36·
              4 天前

              Lemmy hides it by default. They hide it for a reason, whatever you want to define that reason as.

              It feels icky to work around by posting the list of downvotes.

              I’ll debate over that, but I’m not going to beat around the bush or start a snarky semantics argument over a linguistic error I made.

              • lemmingnosis@lemmy.worldEnglish
                72·
                4 天前

                The likely chilling effects are obvious to me. Who’d want to (intentionally or accidentally) tap a button on this site when someone’s gonna post your username for it?

                Punishment for using default features is concerning for a platform. If we needed thought police they’d probably make downvotes more visible to us.

                We can already keep bad content in its place by downvoting it ourselves. We can use logs to investigate brigaging and stalking-to-downvote and suspicious mass upvoting, etc. We owe other users restraint if we want them to come back.

      • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world
        141·
        4 天前

        Do you even know what Doxxing is?

        Calling users out for defending genocide isn’t doxxing. Finding out their real names, addresses, places of work, etc…

        That’s Doxxing.

  • FlordaMan@lemmy.world
    68·
    5 天前

    I kinda want to mirror this to the fediverse with a bot to 1. Make more people see it and 2. Mirror it so when it gets taken down its distributed on here.

    Should I do it? Or is that dumb?

    • Aniki@feddit.org
      2·
      4 天前

      wait is that website a fediverse instance actually?

      also if you do mirror it, make sure to do it in an efficient way. for example, some websites offer one large download to archive the whole site, like wikipedia. is less strain on the server than scraping each page individually.

    • DrMartinu@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      8·
      5 天前

      Yeah, I’m real torn. On one hand, I immediately want to scrape this site, but I also don’t want to beat the site up tying up their bandwidth. There seems to be a parent site db4p.org thats managing mirrors of this site, but I don’t see any sort of torrent or archive. If there’s something like that, I’d be very inclined to just archive the entire site/database.

      • FlordaMan@lemmy.world
        7·
        5 天前

        Mmm… such a bot could run once every 24 hours either “visiting the site” and reading the HTML contents. Or using the DB directly if they have an API somewhere.

        Either way it doesn’t cost them much.

    • stoy@lemmy.zipEnglish
      2·
      5 天前

      Mirror it how exactly?

      Do you mean scraping the data and publishing a report to lemmy/piefed/mastodon?

      • FlordaMan@lemmy.world
        1·
        5 天前

        I was thinking indeed scraping (or using an API), and when a new entry is made, repost it on here (on a seperate community).

        • stoy@lemmy.zipEnglish
          8·
          5 天前

          You may want to create a specific community for that to avoid flooding other communities, and post summaries on other communities every week/month if you do this.

          Just a tip to avoid getting banned for spamming communities.

          • FlordaMan@lemmy.world
            4·
            5 天前

            Yes ofcourse! It’s also against (at least lemmy.world’s) instance to post as a bot without express permission from the community mods.

    • ayyy@sh.itjust.works
      1·
      5 天前

      There’s a kernel of a good idea there but I’m not sure how the actual format of that would work out…

  • stoy@lemmy.zipEnglish
    64·
    5 天前

    The cynic in me asks how long until some government shuts down the site for some bullshit reason.

      • stoy@lemmy.zipEnglish
        13·
        5 天前

        Yeah, I looked further now and the company is Environmental Services Research Institute, Esri, headquartered in California.

        At first I saw some Swedish contact details and had hope that we might be able to withstand the pressure from Israel, but I wanted confirmation and then found out that is was indeed a US company.

        • Logi@lemmy.world
          2·
          4 天前

          Esri make tools for working with geographic information (gis) and have a hosting platform for your creations. It should be possible to self host but that might be more expensive.

      • Bloomcole@lemmy.world
        82·
        5 天前

        there is no arab terrorism, it’s a ziofascist lie to demonize legitimate resistance against these monsters.
        fuck off with your hasbara.

          • Bloomcole@lemmy.world
            42·
            5 天前

            The genociders don’t care about their slave workers and left them to be killed by diaper forces helicopters probably.
            Like those scum don’t let Palestinians in bomb shelters.
            Anyway they shouldn’t have been there.

  • aggelalex@lemmy.world
    19·
    5 天前

    So long, Mom

    I’m off to drop the bomb

    So don’t wait up for me

    But while you swelter

    Down there in your shelter

    You can see me

    On your TV

    While we’re attacking frontally

    Watch Brinkally and Huntally

    Describing contrapuntally

    The cities we have lost

    No need for you to miss a minute

    Of the agonizing holocaust

    • Tom Lehrer, “So long, Mom”
    • PapaStevesy@lemmy.world
      2·
      4 天前

      Whoa cool, the only Tom Lehrer song I’ve heard of before is “Poisoning Pigeons in the Park,” I didn’t know he wrote political songs too.

      • MrQuallzin@pie.eyeofthestorm.placeEnglish
        3·
        4 天前

        Ooooooh you’re in for a treat then! Just a few years ago in 2022 he released all his songs from copyright and you can check out every song on his website! (Or any YouTube video of course)

        I suggest ‘Who’s Next?’ for your next listen

  • itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world
    8·
    5 天前

    So… I think the website as it is described here would be extremely important to have. One caveat I have is, are we sure this is safe and also, real?

    I’m sorry, it’s just that, Israel is known for all kinds of fuckery, and it’s good to be careful when clicking links you know. And I’m no expert so I couldn’t tell if it is some dangerous psyop shit.

    If there are no concerns I’d be delighted, just being cautious I guess. Anyway, Free Palestine, from the River to the Sea and Free Lebanon.

  • Aniki@feddit.org
    2·
    4 天前

    whoa, there’s a ton of houses being destroyed

    it’s surely something to see it on the map, just scrolling through the landscape.

    edit: scrolling further north, they just wiped out entire parts of the landscape

    (check the shadows. ruins don’t cast a shadow.)