• thingAmaBob@lemmy.world
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    And this is why no one gave a shit or even cheered when that CEO was shot. Health insurance as a whole needs to be completely dismantled and the healthcare system in the USA needs to be restructured. I understand if something like that were to happen, it would take many many years and a lot of work to accomplish.

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      not even the estranged wife admonished the public for her former husbands death, also because she wanted a divorce down the line. Plus Witty dint really bat an eye either of his death, because thompson was going to rat on them for insider trading.

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      they made sure to clamp down on the news pretty quickly, and astroturfed news about luigi, and we barely heard about him in over a year, just a little here and there.

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    My dad, a multiple myeloma patient on very expensive chemo, went into the hospital last fall. While there, a pair of palliative care nurses came to see him unbidden and basically told him they thought he was dying and that he should stop chemo and go into hospice. He briefly went along with it but then changed his mind and decided he wanted to keep fighting the cancer. Something about the palliative care nurses’ approach put me off and made me wonder if insurance companies hire people like this to wander hospitals and convince chemo patients to basically off themselves. One of the nurses looked exactly like the popular conception of Jesus and I wondered if he cultivated this look specifically to help him convince people.

    In their defense, my dad did decide to stop chemo and go on hospice a week later, and he died five days after that. So I can’t say they were really wrong in their assessment, but I remain suspicious.

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      nurs

      probably to save them money from continue care til your dad passes away. with organ donations the people will circle the hospital like vultures when a patients about to pass too.

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      I think it’s possible it’s something they do. Why not?

      No one’s going to stop them.

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    What utter cocksuckers. Every last person involved in this scheme deserves to be thrown into jail.

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      I did some research. Apparently the headline is sensationalizing it quite a bit.
      What was really happening was UHC was rewarding nursing homes with incentives when the home reduced the number of hospital referrals for things that didn’t require a hospital visit, and instead took care of them properly. (Thus not shifting the responsibility). That is, not sending grandma to the ER every time she had a cough. This was better for the overwhelmed hospitals, people with real emergencies, and for the nursing home residents who would get appropriate care in-house. Some nursing homes took this to the extreme and wouldn’t send their wards to the hospital for anything at all - resulting in unnecessary deaths, but that’s the nursing home’s fault, not entirely UHC’s.

      I mean fuck UHC and health insurance companies in general, but this story is not as cut & dry as implied by the headline.

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        If what you’re saying is 100% accurate, UHC still created, enabled, and incentivized an environment that led to some nursing homes to commit these horrible crimes. At best UHC should be considered an accessory to these murders.

        I’d be very surprised if this possibility genuinely did not occur to them during their decision making. But the model they created conveniently puts the purported blame in the hands of other entities, so there was really no incentive for them to come to any other solution.

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          I think this is more an example of perverse incentives…

          Hospitals are overwhelmed, they might reach out to the insurance companies to try and help reduce the incoming patients…

          UHC is evil, but I could see how this program perhaps started with good intentions, but became perverse.

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    Soooo… It’s obviously worse when it involves people’s lives, but:

    Every corporation does this. Maximize profit right to the border of legality. Sometimes landing on the wrong side of it, but that’s “just the cost of doing business”.

    That’s what you get with unregulated capitalism.

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      People’s health is the textbook definition of inelastic demand. It should never have been allowed to be a free market and we should require health insurance providers to be registered non-profits at the BARE minimum.

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      Yeah, but we also need to get comfortable piercing the corporate veil when it comes to decisions like this. The corporation diffuses responsibility, it makes everyone feel they must do a thing. We have to break through that and make it clear that people have a legal responsibility to defy instructions like this, to not give instructions like this, and to inform their superiors when instructions will lead to this.