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    You know, while there are places you don’t want to get lost in if you’re white, they aren’t as common as the racists make it out to be. Now, I’ve worked in a couple of those neighborhoods, but even then once the folks literally coming out of bushes knew I was there to provide care to someone, that was the end of it.

    Being real, my cracker ass grew up in a black neighborhood. You know how many times I got jumped by black folks? Zero. Wanna guess how many times I did by white folks? Well, only three, twice by the same assholes, but that’s still telling, aint it?

    My personal experience? Only time you’ll run into trouble for being a cracker is if its a heavy drug area and you ain’t buying. But those folks will be just as harsh to anyone, so I dunno if that counts or not.

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        All human on human violence is intraracial. That is because human genetic variation does not support the division into different races.

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          Are you confusing “race” and “species”?

          Wikipedia:

          Race is a categorization of humans based on shared physical or social qualities into groups generally viewed as distinct within a given society.

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            They’re making a point about how race is a human construct created to separate humans for the purpose of power. The idea of race didn’t exist until the 1750’s or so when Linneaus categorized people based on geographic location and racist stereotypes.

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              Right, go tell that to Herodotus when he was talking about various other races of peoples and how barbaric they were compared to the Greeks, in 425BCE.

              Or just keep making up shit that race is a modern European white man only thing. Don’t let the the rest of history and the other cultures of the world inconveniently disprove your stupidly modern euro centric view of the world.

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        By saying intra instead of inter, you’re suggesting it’s within the races, instead of between (different) races. I choose to believe this was intentional and witty

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          It aligns with the context and their post history suggests they know how to use words. There is nothing bad with explaining rhetorics, but doing it like this comes through as belittling.

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            At the time of my comment, they had several downvotes. I posted my comment for clarity because it seemed like people misunderstood OPs comment

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            Meh, it stopped me from having to google something i already knew just to confirm it. Looks fine to me

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            I know, I was literally saying you used it correctly. At the time of my comment you had several downvotes, I assume because people misunderstood what you were saying, which is why I added my comment for clarity.

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              Thanks for explaining. It’s amazing how much up and downvotes can change the context of a comment. When I saw this, I had upvotes and you had downvotes. Seems to be just a misunderstanding.

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          Given that the races aren’t homogenously mixed, there is no way that it wouldn’t be true that most violence is intra rather than inter just by sheer proximity. These are just the correct words to use.

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    The feeling you guy might get in “hoods” is the same feeling I, as a European get all over the US. I mean completely unrelated to race, just because many of you have guns and there’s much more violence and insanity in general.

    That being said. Nobody tried to rob me and most people were very friendly. There where a few scammers though, I witnessed some disturbing stuff on the metro and I also witnessed a woman attacking a guy in a car which resulted in having her arm being stuck in the window and being dragged a few meters by the car.

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      I think this is just normal. I felt the same way traveling in Europe. I think it’s just the combination of being in an unfamiliar place and standing out as a traveler. A lot of scammers target travelers intentionally.

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        Yeah, scammers always go for the easy targets. Locals will know the scams, are more likely to call the cops on them or have friends to back them up. Foreigners in “holiday mode” are much easier. Same as online scammers who are targetting idiots who still believe in Nigerian princes, smart people with their guard up are not worth the time.

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      many of you have guns and there’s much more violence and insanity in general

      Every third article in the UK is about “Knife Crime!!!” The French and German news networks make it sound like Paris and Berlin are active war zones. FFS, even the Swedes are insisting half the country is living out the plot of Taken.

      Like, I’m sure the US is marginally less safe than Europe. But I suspect that has more to do with Europe just being on-average five years older than the US. By and large, both continents are extremely safe. Violence - particularly street violence - is extraordinarily rare. And the areas where it does crop up tend to be between people who know each other and having some kind of deep interpersonal dysfunction (abusive spouses / parents, school kids fighting one another over some accumulated grudge, sports hooligans brawling with their rivals).

      What we have, in practice, is a handful of highly glamorized violent events (school shootings, most notably) that get international news coverage. FFS, we spend more time covering shootings in the US than we do covering our active military campaigns abroad.

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        The US has five(!) times the murders per capita than France, Germany or the UK.

        Sure, a lot of that is probably gang violence, or isolated big events like school shootings.

        But just let that fact sink in. Per capita, there are five times as many murders in the US than those “rough” countries the MAGA crows warns of. It’s not marginally less safe, it is a whole different league. The US is in between South American or African borderline third-world countries [1] in terms of murders per citizen.

        [1]: Granted, murders are probably more often reported and counted in the US than in Angola or Kenia. But still, that we even have to have this argument…

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          The US has five(!) times the murders per capita

          Roughly 5.75 per 100,000 people/year, versus 1.33 per 100,000. So closer to 4x. But even then, we’re talking about a 0.04% change in incidence.

          A bit like saying you’re 5x as likely to win the lottery.

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            France is at around 1.3, Germany at around 0.9, UK somewhere in between, if a quick search is to be trusted.

            And I think change in incidence is a weird way to express this. Yes, the average person is not likely to die of homicide, even in “unsafe” countries. But at the same time, the chance of a man to get testicular cancer is around 0.01%; if I would be 5 times as likely to get testicular cancer than the people from other places, I would very much want to look into that.

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              Yes, the average person is not likely to die of homicide, even in “unsafe” countries.

              Okay, but that’s it. Full stop. Minor variations don’t say much about these countries.

              the chance of a man to get testicular cancer is around 0.01%; if I would be 5 times as likely to get testicular cancer

              Then the risk is still microscopic, especially with the variance by neighborhood and income and circumstance.

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      I experienced the opposite feeling, spent my high school summers in London and always felt like laughing when people would warn us off rough neighborhoods that were safer than the safe neighborhoods where I was from.

      It has gotten much less violent here since then.

      1980s to 2000

      Believe it or not this still left us rougher than the US in general or even Florida in general. But look, since 2000

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    Fake: OP left their house.
    Gay: OP (claims to) get into a car with a group of guys.

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    I feel like race is pretty irrelevant to this story. Boy gets lost, locals help him find his way. The fact he was white and they were black is only relevant because we’re expected to relate to the boy’s fear of black people.

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      The fact he was white and they were black is only relevant because [their target audience] is expected to relate to the boy’s fear of black people.

      Yes, it’s used as a bait-and-switch.

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      It’s relevant if we assume it’s america, because the white suburban middle-class american assumption is that all poor black people will murder and kill you and have no human decency. When of course, the truth is most folks in these places are decent and the crime is minority of the residents who are in gangs and other organized activities.

      And trust me, tons of these people exist. I meet live in a city full of folks who claim to be liberal progressives but are utterly terrified to be in the same restaurant as anyone black. The racism is really really deep here, esp among those who claim they aren’t racist because they watched Get Out and read White Fragility, so they can’t possibly be racist!

      But people are dumb monkeys and fear is one of our most powerful/driving emotions, to the point it’s the an amazing tactic for fueling brain-rot political takes and policies based in ‘black people are all bad people’ nonsense. And also, more lately, latino immigrants from south america whose skin color has any significant melanin.

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        Even if they are criminals, they don’t want cops on their turf. The best neighbors I’ve ran into were deep in the ghetto on a street with 3 sell houses.

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          You and I know that but middle class white americans with little to no experience with black people are the more agoraphobic people on the planet

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          While I agree. It can be a little rougher in the south. I don’t judge, but if I’m going to get some weed or M, and my buddy is with me, whom is a 40 yr old black guy. He’ll be the first to say “lock the doors and keep the windows up.”

          Nothing on the folks in the ghetto, but some of em are desperate and will see a white person as an easy target.

          But I’m also the type of guy to treat a rough black neighborhood the same as a rough white neighborhood.

          Hell, I’m more scared of the white ghettos with all the meth. White methheads will stab ya in the face. Black ghettos are just folks trying to get by.

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            This was in Louisiana. It was bad enough that my friend who lived there was surrounded by cops going home multiple times because “the only reason a white person would be there is to buy drugs.”

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              Yea, it definitely a thing I watch for when going into them areas. If I see a cop on one block, I’ll go around 2 blocks so they don’t see us riding back through.

              Which makes me feel bad cause ya it is one of the reasons I am over there, but that can’t be helped if the folks I break bread with are black.

              And it’s not like I see a black person and go “on that’s a plug.” It just I end up having black plugs cause all my white plugs rip me off and act like they’re my buddies. I’ve never been ripped off by a black plug if I’m tbh.

              It’s a fucked world. Everybody wants to get the drop on everyone.

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    Total missed opportunity for

    They invited me to their house for drinks. As we approach, you can hear the music blaring through the windows.

    Open the door

    get on the floor

    Everybody walk the dinosaur

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    I mean that’s not a bad take away at least in sketch areas, the people living there generally don’t want trouble

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      Yep. And confused white boy who just straight up admits he is lost?

      He very probably is just lost, and thus isn’t looking to start anything.

      Mutually beneficial solution to all involved is just… help him get home.

      Win win.

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    The truth is that most of the worst things to ever happen to you will be done by people you already know and trust, not strangers, regardless of race!

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    Racial profiling really is the lowest iq shit possible; equal to walking thru a nursery with a color chart and a labelmaker. What kind of an idiot do you have to be to ignore everything you yourself have ever experienced, received and taken for granted and presume the same facts of life don’t apply to everyone. No one is born bad. Even trump was a human first. Apologies for rant.

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      Racial profiling is bad. Profiling based on where you are is not necessarily bad. If I were to find myself in a bad part of town and a group of guys came up to me, it wouldn’t matter if they were black, Hispanic, white, or Asian; I’m going to be nervous. Meth and other hard drugs know no race.

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      The unfortunate thing is, it sort of works. If you were able to stop and search 100 people as a cop, you would have more success stopping “stereotypical gangsters” than random people. And yes, many of those stereotypes are based on race and social status.

      It creates many other issues, from discrimination to trust in institutions to pushing people into crime, but the sad thing is, the basic concept kind of works.