You havent advocated for anything but voter apathy and disengagent. Your arguments herr are exactly why this is all happening.

Israel would be, and therefore, we would be too. Yes.

No we wouldnt. Biden had four years to do this and never did. Youre making up fake scenarios to justify your position

You’ll recall that Biden actually kept many of the Donald tariffs, so yes, it’s likely we’d be okay with disrupting trade to some extent.

Some not all anf hr didnt introduce 200% random tarrifs accross allues and random countries alike. Again fake scenarios to justify your position

Not Canada or Greenland specifically, but considering Obama was at war in 7 countries when he left office (that we’re able to confirm, at least. Could be many more.), and Biden was bombing several countries as well as aiding and abetting genocide and a manufactured famine in Palestine, it’s hard to argue that we wouldn’t be doing stupid shit militarily regardless. That’s especially true given the bloodlust of Israel and the Democrats’ insistence that we continue to hand them WMD’s on demand.

So no. He wouldnt have like trump did do and that youre trying to downplay with made up scenarios of what you think biden would have done even though he could have but didnt.

You need to stop gaslighting yourself into thinking everyone is the same and only you are special and different and see the problems of the world. They are different. There are people dead today that would not have been had harris won and trump lost. But you do all this song amd dance to try and justify inaction in the face of trump. Or worse cause so much division that no cohesive response to trump can be formed.

Bullshit .you asked for metrics. Those are fucking metrics. Can you not read

Fuck israel. Theres and entire school of iranian kids that are now dead because harris lost. That is the destinction.

No i didnt. I voted for harris to try and stop this bullshit. YOU got what you wanted. Harris lost and now the world must contend with the consequences and even more people will die.

Because it is. Trump is going to win if you dont do what you can to stop him. He is actively vying for a third term and people here are saying theyll let him have it unless they get every concession they demand. Fuck the consequences. And you all think that is a legitimate way to let this all play out. Dividing your votes into a hundred different candidates will fail. This is fact amd reality.

I was trying tp get people to vote for the person that wasnt going to start more wars in the middle east. Or kill random people in the carribean. Or put all trans people on a watch list. Or rail against any form of electrification. No the only ones who accomplished their hoals were those trying to get americans to think that the above candidate was the same as harris. You know realy morons.

Really wed be at war with iran? Wed be blowing up random boats and killing people in the caribean? We would have snatched up other country leaders? We would have completely destroyed world trade by tarrifing every other country on the planet? We would have all but destroyed the NATO aliance by starting said iran war and also threatening to violently invade greenland and canada? Do you need a prescription for this severity of blindness

Who started a war with iran? Who went into another country and kidnapped their leader? Who is blowing up random boats in the carribean? Who bowed to north korean generals?

No biden os nowhere close to trump. Youre being willfully ignorant on this

No i say this to anyone trying to downplay the severity of political involvement. The fact you dont understand this is exactly why

Yes they lie but that is not theater. That is a lie. Do you not know the difference? This kind of mindset is exactly what im talking about.

No im not. Those iranians wouldnt have died if trump was not in office. Everyone who didnt do all they could to stop his assention is responsible for their deaths. They would not have died if kamela had won. The palestiniams would have died either way so they do not change the equation at all.

How are all those iranians doing now after those protest votes. Their deaths totally worth the clear conscious of not voting

So instead we hit the gas or do nothing…really?

You wanna known what a progressive point is now. Dont kill trans people. That is where we are right now. That is the line of progressivism now that trunp won. Congratulations overton window shifted

This is a russian/eastern perspective. Theater has no effect on real life politics does. They are NOT the same. If you act like they are you are part of the problem.

A war with iran. Because trump won we have now killed dozens/hundreds of iranians. People that would not have died if harris had won. So again what would biden/harris have done that would have amounted to starting a war. Are you stupid…

Uhh trans people lost support last election. Or were you not paying attention to all the anti-trans legislation coming out.

Hey guess what. The genocide got even worse under harris’ opposition. How did that work out for all the genocide joe non-voters. How have palestinians benefitted under those protest votes/non-votes. Not to mention all the dead iranians that wouldnt be had harris won

The problem then being the electorate. The same group so many here want to absolve. You may not care about politics and want to ‘check out’ but it still cares about you and will still effect you even if you try to ignore it. In that vein elections will still happen and people you agree/disagree with will still be given power over you and your life. No matter how low the turn out a decision will be made with or without your input. Better to do what you can to give that input and make it the most useful it can be, before you get no input at all