• Dogiedog64@lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    Let’s put a positive spin on this, since people in the comments are dogging on him enough.

    Guy’s 20, living on his own, clearly inexperienced in the ways of living on his own, and he had the courage to do what so many fail to: ask for help. If he keeps that going, he’ll be fine.

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      14 days ago

      He clearly didn’t get the guidance he needed when he was younger, but he is trying and asking questions. He is on the right path.

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        14 days ago

        People like to blame men for the failure/neglect of society, parents, teachers, etc., to teach them the things they’ll need to know as an adult. Generally regarding stuff that was conventionally ascribed as “women’s duties”: cooking, cleaning, decorating, etc.

        People blame the individuals as if they’re supporting the patriarchy by not knowing the things that they were never taught. That’s missing the point, because these men were harmed by the patriarchy which neglected to teach them these important things.

        It’s really hard to enter your twenties and become moderately independent and suddenly have to learn a hundred different things that are absolutely critical to a well-ordered life, that already come so naturally to people who have been doing it their entire lives that they hardly even think about it and look down on you for not just intuitively grasping everything you need to know.

        But no, they see a young guy struggling with basic tasks like washing the bed sheets or hanging curtains or choosing a tasteful rug or not burning dinner or whatever, and they jump straight to “NOBODY IS GOING TO MOMMY YOU, GROW TF UP!!!” Because it’s sooo cool to attack a man who you find in a position of weakness because he’s struggling with tasks you deem basic.

        If we could just break that stigma and make it okay for men to ask for help, they’d be able to learn what they need to a lot easier. At least the ones who try. Clearly the ones who don’t try and have no interest in trying are the problem, so why focus the ire on the ones who do try? Asking for help kinda skylines yourself and makes you vulnerable to attack, so I’m not surprised few people do it.

        That would at least ease the transition for a generation or two until people who learn basic things as boys grow up and become men who don’t need to catch up on the things that the average 20yo woman has already been doing for over a decade…

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          13 days ago

          Also of note, some of that can just be pure crippling ADHD too,

          washing the bed sheets

          Thanks for reminding me.

          hanging curtains

          Bought 'em 2y ago and they’re still in the box in a seldom used closet, keep forgetting about them until I see them but then I’m doing something and will have to get to it later, by “later” I’ve forgotten again. I’ll get to them later…

          choosing a tasteful rug

          This one might not be ADHD I just hate shopping for things, I get in and get out.

          not burning dinner

          OH SHIT MY PIZZA!

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            13 days ago

            The worst part about burning food is it stinks the kitchen out for days. The last time I burnt some pasta (straight up forgot about it and went to bed) I seriously started looking at buying a ozone machine. But I would 100% definitely kill myself with that so in the end I just left all the windows open for a few days.

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        14 days ago

        He also didn’t get the guidance here. Who says “I’m tweeting this”.

        You help him, and then you tweet it privately…

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        14 days ago

        Also for the cousin, I hate when you ask someone, specifically a family member for help, and they make you feel stupid, I mean sure, I maybe late to the party, but I am learning.

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      13 days ago

      He a 20 yr old loving on his own. He already beat 80% of the other kids living with their parents.

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        13 days ago

        I knew how to use an oven at 20, so I’m guessing he it’s probably from the class that doesn’t really ever go into the kitchen.

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      14 days ago

      He’s probably injecting his message and destination into someone elses data transmission lmao

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        Because we should encourage people to be smart enough to realize they’re doing something dumb and ask someone to help or make sure they’re doing things correctly.

        The last thing we need in this world are more aggressively stupid people inordinately confident that they’re doing shit right while doing nothing but fucking up.

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          The one thing that is bothering me a little… Like I was on my own in college at 18. While I wasn’t really “taught” how to cook for myself I at least observed my mom and dad over 18 years cooking. I’ve seen them use baking sheets in the oven, and never just directly on the rack.

          My question is where was this guy for 20 years? Was he never in the kitchen helping set the table? Emptying the dishwasher/doing dishes while mom was making dinner? Did he just disappear at all times and thought some magic genie made food?

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        Because the fact that you’re seeing this in the first place shows something deeply wrong with how people interact these days.

        We should be free to make mistakes. Just because you had a perfectly predictable childhood doesn’t mean everyone does. If you didn’t have a perfectly predictable childhood then you need to practice some empathy.

        Guy is trying to learn. That shouldn’t get him posted for everyone to make fun of.

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          First, you don’t know anything about me, what a weird thing to say.

          Second, guy isn’t here. Guy possibly doesn’t even exist. This isn’t about guy and his needs, it’s about the needs of the people actually present. I don’t think you are seeing through your own bullshit well enough to have actual insight into, “Why?”

          Lastly, if you think this is how we meaningfully express empathy to each other, I suggest this is more about feeling like you are practicing empathy than actually practicing it in meaningful ways.

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        13 days ago

        Or maybe:

        Parents, make sure your kids have some basic skills in running simple household appliances like the washer and dryer, the dishwasher, and the stove.

        And learning to cook simple things like boiled pasta or scrambled eggs or a baking pan of box-mix brownies, lays a foundation for more advanced cooking skills. When they get motivated (hungry), they will at least have the basic skills to cook up a pot of pasta with sauce, and maybe they’ll start experimenting, and learn how to cook more advanced stuff.