• SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today
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    6 days ago

    Because people are selfish and shortsighted. I was for most of my life, it wasn’t until this year that my excuses stopped working for me.

    I love cows more than beef. There is a crazy amount of pro-beef propaganda in the comments here. No, most people do not require meat. I hope most people would change their habits if they saw the consequences of their choices.

  • DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca
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    2 years ago

    Why do people eat food they know isn’t good for their health? Why do people continue to buy products from companies that have proven to only sell bad products or engage in scumbag practices?

    They all have the same answer.

      • EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        2 years ago

        Because I live in America and there’s pretty much no public transportation.

        Trust me, if I had a train, I’d fucking use that sucker. Travel into town for my weekly errands AND I don’t have to deal with people not using cruise control on a highway? SIGN ME THE FUCK. UP.

      • Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world
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        2 years ago

        Some of us work multiple part time jobs to barely make it.

        I’d probably stay in the basement if I didn’t need to pay my landed lord their monthly tribute.

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          2 years ago

          buy some cheap sliver of land and park a bus on it. save up and find a better sliver of land and plan from there.

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      It turns out in 1961 the American heart Association took bribery money from procter and gamble, who owned and sold “healthier Crisco” cooking oils that weren’t high in saturated fat, like beef and other cooking oils were.

      The AHA then claimed and pushed that saturated fats caused heart disease.

      Problem is, something like 88% of every study done in the past 60 years has found little to no link between heart disease and saturated fats.

      So beef, according to most studies, isn’t bad for you. The AHA was just crooked and on the take, being paid off to sell Crisco.

      Now it is calorie dense and people tend to eat too much of it, but that seems to be a lot of things. Don’t eat too much or you get fat. But apparently, you don’t have to worry about saturated fats being bad for you.

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        2 years ago

        WHO report

        someone else online summarized the genetics part as the following:

        Mandelian randomisation studies show that LDL-c is causative in atherogenic plaques 1 and metabolic ward RCTs show that SFA intakes increase LDL-c, while the decrease in SFAs lead to lower total and LDL-c 2.

        But yes, almost all nutrition science is a bit inconclusive because of genetic variation.

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          2 years ago

          Forgive me, because I’m struggling to understand the linked information, but as someone with atherosclerosis this is an issue close to my heart (ha!).

          I just want to make sure I understand you.

          Your link to the european heart journal says that the causal link between LDL and ASCVD is “unequivocal”.

          I think the WHO study says (amongst a lot of other complicated stuff) that replacing SFAs with PUFAs and MUFAs is more favourable than replacing SFAs with complex carbohydrates? The strong implication being (although I couldn’t see this exactly) that higher SFA intake contributes to heart disease.

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            2 years ago

            I don’t think it tries to compare carbohydrates to any UFAs, but the implication is indeed that SFAs significantly contribute to heart disease.

  • Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Where I live the beef is local and cheap. I’m not able to obtain enough protein without meat, as confirmed by a doctor and a nutritionist when I tried to go vegetarian. With food costs so high it’s cheaper to buy cow than anything else, but when I have the money I opt for fish or turkey. I looked into hunting but it’s prohibitively expensive for me with permits, tags, guns, licenses, days off and transportation. I tried fishing for myself as well, but whenever I get time to do it, there are warnings about eating fish in the area. When there aren’t I never catch anything big enough to legally be allowed to keep. I’d like to get chickens if/when local government ever lifts the bylaws preventing it.

    • Son_of_dad@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      I’m a native whose culture have hunted and eaten meat for millennia, what propaganda were my ancient ancestors being shown?

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        2 years ago

        What does what your ancestors did have to do with what we now know about modern factory farming? The question was about still eating beef despite what we know today, what does that have to do with your ancestors? Is your comment not the very definition of a strawman?

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            6 days ago

            “We owned slaves for a long time, who are you to tell me it’s wrong?”

            Hello. We are trying to be decent human beings. Please join us in building a better society. I don’t give a shit how many people were wrong for how long, wrong is wrong and we know better now.

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              The future will absolutely not look down on cultures that have to rely on animals for food. Do we look at native Americans as horrible people because they had to slaughter animals, in a controlled, and relatively well thought out manner?

              Personally I believe the most likely alternative will be bugs. Do bugs not count as an animal? Or would you say bugs shouldn’t be eaten either

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    2 years ago

    Because it’s a damn good source of creatine and protein. And it tastes good.

  • Mugita Sokio@lemmy.todayBanned from community
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    9 months ago

    That’s because, if done right and from the right source, certain meats are actually good for the human body.

    Anybody who thinks that heart disease comes from eating meat does not understand that, despite the amount of research on it, meat cannot be considered to be bad for anyone’s health. Those that do have some research on it are going based upon flukes, fraud and lies, likely spread by witches and warlocks. I personally eat organic meat myself, and I have no health issues because of what I eat.

    As they say… “you are what you eat”. Also, I eat meat so vegans and vegetarians can have an easier time not eating meat. In a way, I’m helping them in some sense (as far as I’m aware, but I could be wrong on that).

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      No, they don’t. I used to smoke, nicotine is a fucking bitch of a drug, somehow I managed to quit using vaping and nicotine gum over 2 years. Beef is not an addictive chemical. You must never have experienced nicotine drug, what a naive ass comment to make.

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    2 years ago

    because not every country produce beef like you westerner. and not everyone eat beef everyday.

    go make your government ban beef like you ban palm oil if you really care about earth.

    • 3volver@lemmy.worldOP
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      2 years ago

      go make your government ban beef

      I would get them to end all subsidies for the beef industry if I could. Unfortunately I’m not in control of that, all I can do is bring up discussion, and I got you to comment, so I succeeded.

  • Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    1 the amount of beef I eat is not a major contributer to the problem. No matter how hard I try. The actual major contributors what to distract people by telling them that they can make the difference. They can’t. 2 I don’t like plants… 3 the way the grow plants for food is also terrible for earth

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      The major contributors only sell what people buy. They won’t stop so long as there’s money to be made. And most plants grown for food go to feed animals.

      You don’t like plants because you’re a big baby.

      So yeah, your arguments suck.

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    2 years ago

    The real question is, why should we try to not eat beef for the environment, when corporations make 90% of all pollution in the world.

    Maybe focus on the 90% of the problem and not the individual people who but meat?