• someone@lemmy.today
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    11 hours ago

    You know what would help this situation?

    AI

    Lots and lots of AI.

    Also more religion.

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    Do you reckon the USA actions in the last 2 years have contributed to the speed up?

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    16 hours ago

    Climate change deniers: “I’ll be dead by 2050, why do I care?” or “Fuck you, I got mine already.”

    Reality: FAFO.

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    There’s been a 73% decline in global vertebrate populations since 1970. We’re in the beginning of a very serious mass extinction and it’s kinda like we don’t care which is interesting.

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      Sociopathic billionaires with all of the power to do something about it absolutely don’t care if the world ends. They only care if they were on top before the game ended.

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        I’m not absolutely sure if. That’s true, seems to be more so a function of their age. Like if i’m 92 and the world ends then not so bad, but if I’m like 38 and the world ends then that’s sad.

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        Not saying you’re wrong but I don’t see the point in letting the population collapse. It will just bounce back later and probably be far greater assuming humans don’t go extinct before achieving sufficient space travel and colonies. That is also assuming we’re the only ones here and this isn’t like a controlled demolition of the human species by some other entity or force.

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            I haven’t even ruled out last Thursdayism. Reality is strange, even in the most mundane interpretation.

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          no no you don’t understand, the billionaires want more money, the number simply must go up. and maybe they would care about the world if any of their workers would inform them of the consequences of each of their actions, but none that do stick around so the number keeps going up, fuck the consequences

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            Possible but they’re holding summits trying to figure out how to maintain control in their bunkers when money no longer has value. I think they’re pretty aware of the situation at hand.

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              yeah but you just said it, they feel safe with their bunkers, the rest of the world be damned

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                Safe until there’s a revolt and they become the bunker bitch or in a worse case tomorrow’s dinner. You see the issue? Can’t control people with money if money no longer has value.

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                  of course, though i bet they’re working under the assumption that their defences are enough, or that they will be the last remaining humans out there. basically, hubris

                  greed and hubris are a powerful combo, unfortunately

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        Yup, second organism to cause a mass extinction but the first to self proclaim it’s intelligent.

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            I’m still pretty solid on the idea we’re in an ancestor simulation or at minimum definitely not in base reality.

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              Whatever helps get you through it. Functionally it makes no difference. The simulation runs particles smaller than atoms and the maximum speed is still light. Our universe is too vast for us to explore and there’s probably other life forms on planets too far away to matter. Our experience is insignificant in the grand scheme of things, yet the only thing we will ever do. Make it count while you’re here.

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                I mean the probability isn’t in our favor. As for us, yeah it doesn’t change much. Same for a lot of epistemological arguments. Last Thursdayism, Descartes demon, Plato’s cave, Chung Tzu’s butterfly, solipsism, Boltzmann brains could all be bang on right on the money. I see you’re taking the more so physical reality approach, even then if something like the holographic universe or some variation is correct then maybe distance doesn’t exist like we think it does. If for instance we’re in a black hole then there’s a one to one representation of all information here in what we consider 3D space on the black hole’s surface.

                All the fun ideas aside I agree with you although maybe our definitions of fun may be different. That is I think the first goal is to reduce needless and avoidable suffering for all minds anywhere in existence whenever possible. Like even if it is a simulation of sorts or reality just started ten seconds ago or what I’m experiencing is a Boltzmann brain it still doesn’t stop the first goal from at least being the best goal I’ve found so far.

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    Faster than expected, and worse than anticipated. It will get much faster and much worse. Practice growing your own food and stay in shape.

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      That’s the hit.
      Drink lots of water and try to di most of your errants and activity by night or early morning when temperatures are at the coolest.

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      I keep wanting to make “we are flocked” signs with arrows pointing at the cameras, but I don’t know if I should worry about putting them up.

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    The fictional one has something along the lines of “as usual” while in reality it’s exceptional (for now). Though europe is especially affected by climate change, due to some meteorological phenomenas. And it’s concerning that we get a few more over-30°C days each year.

    Edit: language. hard.

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      Media in France keep repeating it’s exceptional because it’s hotter than previous years, but they also sometimes add that it’s probably colder than all years to come.

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    We’re sitting in our rooms agitated, causing life long issue with sleepless nights, all while these fuckers that did this for greed sake are building climate controlled bunkers.

    Fuck rich removed

    see you next Tuesday is sencered? What else can we call them…

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      I’ve said it before, we need to announce the revolution so all these idiots go into their bunkers, and then brick them up or something.

      The concept of hiding out bunker is idiotic, if the world is truly dying then what are you going to do in a bunker? Sit there for the rest of your life, and then what, have your descendants emerge a century later to devastated world, what’s the point? The sort of people who hide out in end of the world shelters are not the sort of people who want to get their hands dirty rebuilding civilisation.

      Far apart from anything else it’s going to be incredibly boring if you’re used to the jet setting lifestyle.

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        They probably think the “cattle” will tire themselves out with revolution after a decade or so, and then they can reemerge to retake the reins of society.

        It doesn’t make the most sense but these people have more money than sense, almost definitionally.

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          “cattle” is neither capable of starting a revolution, not is it capable of sticking with it for more than half a year.

          Tested and true in most first world countries

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      No, that was plan A.

      Plan A: tell people there’s no climate change

      Plan B: tell people climate change is natural, not man made

      Plan C: tell people climate change is man made but there’s nothing we can do about it

      We’re at plan C now.

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      A lot will admit it’s real but then shift blame to China while overlooking the facts that chinas pollution is largely made by western countries outsourcing the dirtiest parts of their supply chain to China and that China is vastly outperforming and outspending literally every country in considerably bringing down their emissions

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        Sadly, most people are incapable (or unwilling) to think beyond maybe 2 links in the causal chain, the “in your face” immediatelly visible stuff and a simple explanation for it (generally of the “people I don’t like did it” kind).

        Faced with “this is happening” (or, worse, “somebody is telling me this is happening”), they’ll generally accept whatever “explanation” they’re fed and can’t just keep asking themselves “Why?” (“Why are you telling me this (what’s in it for you)?”, “why would those people do this (what’s in it for them)?”, “is that the only reason?” and so on).

        For example, if you dig down, in most countries in Europe the increase in immigration can be traced back to locals not having enough kids and thus the population is aging and you need to let in working age people to pay for retirement pensions of the locals, and that in turn digs down to massive realestate bubbles and stagnating salaries so that the profits of the fatcats are high (at the unspecialized level immigration does put downwards pressure on salaries, though the picture is less clear above that) making life way harder for young people so they have fewer children, and that in turn leads to how the parties in government (mainly the “mainstream” ones) have reliably enacted policies to favor very rich people (mainly making the income from Work be less and less whilst the income from Asset Ownership is more and more) and realestate investors and even the “fringe” “left” has just blindly parroted pro-immigration slogans from the American and British liberals (and ended up punished at the ballot for it, to the gain of the Far-Right), and that in turn leads us to just how many of those politicians have “realestate investestor” as their main source of wealth increase and to the massive levels of Corruption in the modern era (and on the “fringe” “left” parties we dig down to how those heading them grew up in the Neoliberal era, don’t really have coherent leftwing ideologies unlike in the old days and thus think the moral liberalism of the Neoliberals is what being “leftwing” is all about).

        IMHO Populism works because it just points at some issue (or makes one up) and then provides a single-layer immediate explanation (generally of the “they’re bad people” kind), and all wrapped up in a nice bow and that totally satisfies many if not most people. The simplest way to disassemble that is just to ask “Why do you want me to believe that?”, but those people refuse to do it.

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      Some have stopped denying the warming. But they’ve moved on to “humans can’t cause enough pollution to affect the entire earth” and “It’s god’s will to bring the end times” fml

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        In the UK they’ve moved on to “we’re too small to make a difference, it’s like pissing in the wind”…

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          Canada is the same. Always the what about China. But they make the stiff for us what do people expect. We have outsourced our pollution.

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        It’s not happening.

        It’s happening, but it’s not our fault.

        It’s our fault, but it’s too late to do anything about it…

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        Tell them to fuck their gods. ATP There should be forced climate action whether other people like it or not.

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      My favorite is “it’s real, but it’s the sun, so…what are we gonna do? Besides, humans can’t possibly affect the earth!” as if things like aerosolized lead blanketing the planet for 60 years simply didn’t happen.

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      Well its not the whole globe, just Europe here. There are people there I care about, but there’s plenty of space for them over here when Europe becomes uninhabitable, and switching to renewables seems like kind of a pain.

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    Truly wild.

    I’m in the northern us and traveled to Austin, TX for work recently.

    I departed at 72 degrees and raining and landed in 98 degrees with a 78 dew point. It was a heat index of 116.

    I understand exactly why the world is burning, watching all the people scurry from AC to AC in a state which derives most of it’s power from fossil juice. And then of course, everyone is driving a monster vehicle and coal rolling pedestrians and e scooter renters.

    We’re so fucked.

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      This is not supposed to be personal, but an additional point is how it is completely natural to us as a society to fly somewhere. Even if it’s for work.

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        Absolutely.

        I don’t fly often, but my entire team travels for work, meaning they are on the road all day, everyday. We are a sales organization and that’s what is expected by our customers.

        I’m not exempt from blame here. I do what I can to reduce my footprint, sadly it’s not much.

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          I fully understand. I did that for a long time, too (working and participating in a frequent flying environment). But that’s really where we need to change society. The way we think about things that we have never questioned before.

          And one additional thing should become very clear: it’s not only about our footprint. Someone needs to stop others from destroying everything, from flying, from coal rolling monster suvs etc. And as there are too few people being that someone, we need to be that someone.

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      I departed at 72 degrees and raining and landed in 98 degrees with a 78 dew point. It was a heat index of 116.

      Global warming or American degrees…