It gets my goat that people think it’s a good option. There are plenty of articles explaining some of the many issues with it, but a few are:
- It’s run by anti-LGBTQ+ crypto bros.
- It has ads right out of the box.
- It collected donations towards people who never signed up for them - then held them to ransom in exchange for the kind of information you should never share on the Internet.
- They’re a for-profit advertising company. “Privacy-centric” my elbow.
It’s a for profit ad company making a “privacy first browser”.
Thinking for literaly a second about that sentence should tell you all you need to know.
you can do privacy friendly ads, it’s not because the entire industry has evolved to an horrible point that the good way of doing it can’t exist
I did not know Brendan Eich was ousted from Mozilla and launched Brave because he was a homophobe who funded anti-LGBT+ campaigns 😬
He also created JavaScript, but I don’t see people getting upset and telling others to not use JavaScript.
It’s because no-one knows any alternatives.
If one wants a Chrome-based browser that isn’t Chrome, Brave is the highest-profile one by orders of magnitude. Next is a bunch of high-SEO scamware before honest projects like Vivaldi or Helium are even a whisper.
…So I don’t really blame folks for using Brave. They aren’t omniscient, and an honest effort to avoid Chrome is still a positive.
Helium browser.
I’m still mystified as to how Brave took any market share. I thought there’s two camps: people who care about browser privacy and people who don’t. The latter crowd stay with Chrome or whatever their PC comes with. The former crowd…did I miss a memo on what was wrong with Firefox?
Because they pumped out ads for it and paid astroturfers to promote it like crazy. It’s not really that surprising. There are laws against deceptive advertising but they rarely get enforced, and when they do, it’s usually a slap on the wrist. Which is how Brave can lie about browser privacy, get popular, and never get called out for lying in any meaningful way.
With Firefox, presumably compatibility, AI stuff, and a string of lesser Mozilla controversies, I guess?
As for Brave, I think you’re underestimating people. They don’t want to be tracked, they don’t want to see ads. They won’t necessarily go seek a solution out, but if a one-click solution to fix that presents itself in front of their eyeballs, they might try it.
I don’t blame folks for using it.
I do blame folks for not reading up before recommending it.
I recommend(ed) it so people have a mobile browser with functional adblock. I don’t need to research further to know it does that well, which frankly is all most people will care about.
Congratulations for helping fund bigotry.
Plonk.
Do you pay taxes?
If so, good job funding genocide plonk.
…if not, carry on
Ah yes, my massive endowment of $0 towards the Brave LGBT Hate Fund
don’t worry you just need to use it and it will generate money for them, keep the good (bad) work
Deep breaths stranger, I promise I’ll check out IronFox so Brave doesn’t get my $0.20 per year to destroy our rights
I feel like I’m getting too old for the Internet. I still fondly remember the times where you could create a Geocities page and add it yourself to the Yahoo directory, and other netizens clicked through categories to get to your listing, instead of using a search engine.
But I digress. I’m finding myself browsing the www less over time, and I’m already limited to only a hadful of pages I visit regularly. For me personally, Vivaldi is the best choice for a desktop, and Brave is hands-down the best choice for my smartphone. But I appreciate that others may have different use cases.
- it’s fucking Chromium
Go use some Firefox-derivative like Librewolf or Fennec, like a sane person.
They also tried to get away with URL injection. Do not use Brave.
Just mentioned how I didn’t like people recommending this like last week and got “ok” as a response lol. Some people are just ignorant and don’t care.
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What if I just want to go on movies pirate streaming sites so bad I need ublock origin and the brave “shield” on 24/7? Is this Firefox, Vivaldi or xelemental-compatible ? I’m on brave but you make me regret it
uBlock Origin works better on Firefox-based browsers. You get the full uBO experience, not uBO Lite.
Get LibreWolf if you’re as paranoid as I am - but the onboarding sucks, you need to remember by default it clears all your data every time you close it (can change in settings).
As I understand it (not a Brave user, I may have misundersood) the Brave “shield” is partially tracking protection and partially snake oil. Firefox has enhanced tracking protection. You can even turn it up to “strict”, if you’re willing to sacrifice website functionality for increased privacy.
Anyway, browser’s not a forever decision, try one, try several, see what you like
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Thank you for your well-reasoned argument, I’m totally convinced!
People just want the next best easy supposedly privacy friendly solution. People who use Librewolf instead aren’t any different. Just configure Firefox how you want it to and actually get timely updates. All forks suck because updates are massively delayed.
This! I never understand people who recommend Librewolf or other forks over Firefox just because some default settings are better.
I had no idea about any of this. Have been using brave on android for a few weeks and very happy with it. What would you recommend instead?
A Firefox fork.
Fork? Uhg wtf is wrong with firefox now? This better not be about AI
A bunch of forks just add extra functions, patches or defaults on top of firefox. It’s not a hard fork as in they maintain everything themselves, they’re still based on the latest official firefox releases.
Removing AI is one of those patches yes.
Yea I’m going to go ahead and recommend against opinionated firefox. Oh yea I want some dweeb with misplaced anger and too much time on their hands to dictate how I use the internet. Bitch asses.
You (the end user) decide how you want to use the internet. The forks you’re probably angry about are the ‘hardened forks’, but whether or not you care about their goals and want to use those is a choice only you can make. Most of what they do is basically change some default configs and remove some ‘bad’(according to the maintainers and the users) features.
There’s also forks like zen that under the hood use firefox, but customize the user experience significantly.
- Don’t care.
- No it doesn’t.
- Don’t care.
- They’re a for-profit privacy centric company same as proton, mullvad, tuta, kagi, duckduckgo, nextcloud, adguard, threema, nextDNS, startmail, bitwarden, OsmAnd, organic maps, odysee, obsidian, onlyoffice, 1984 hosting, njalla, canonical, qubesOS, pfSense, fairphone…
Yeah I don’t get the hate. I don’t use it personally but it seems like a much better choice than chrome
Honesty your arguments against Brave are pretty weak
Brave > Chrome
Brave isn’t great for those who want a lot of private and control. However, it is way better for people to choose Brave over Chrome or Edge.
Sure it’s better, if you want to directly fund anti-LGBTQ+ crypto bros.
May as well give money to the fucking Salvation Army.
It’s free and open source, you don’t have to fund anything. Just don’t enable adds/rewards and don’t pay for their VPN, AI, talk.
Honesty I think the antiLQBTQ thing is way overblown
Can you help me understand how using the browser is directly funding those things?
Let me make it simple for you. Using browser = giving them your data + seeing their ads. Money from ads + selling your data = funding CEO. CEO = anti-LGBTQ+ crypto bro. If you need more help, please engage your brain and re-read this post.
