Here’s the thread: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/24345496
users from meanwhileongrad are banned from dbzer0, so you won’t be able to interact (which you shouldn’t be doing anyway)
Which alternatives to lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/piracy do y’all recommend?
The Defed-iverse Wars, begun it has.
“They comply by laws that limit obvious hate speach, which is why we should seperate us and segregate them [because we love hate speach as long as it is directed at the right people]”.
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This is a very interesting comment
Third reply down, “Draconic NEO,” is literally an AI porn spamming account that originated a few days ago and keeps on coming back under slight changes to their alias after getting bannedEdit: Okay, I was happily wrong. A spambot harrassing Draconic exists.
not quite!
Draconic NEO is a legitimate user who occasionally posts here, but a spambot keeps following Draconic around, posting defamatory comments and generally harassing. Fortunately these bots don’t work in this community
There is someone who keeps on posing as Draconic NEO. It’s either antiyanks or dragonrider.
Well that explains why it appears some of my blocks were broken. It’s likely the imposters.
wish the lemmy devs would stop arguing about their tankie fantasies and get to work on ways to deal with vote manipulation and alt spam
maybe piefed’s the way to go
Maybe they were just good at keeping on the mask, but it’s a bit sad because I remember a year ago seeing most of db0 openly clowning on tankies whenever they showed up.
Now Unruffled seems to be pushing to make the whole instance explicitly tankie/campist.
db0 is super cucked too. He pointed out that they have a red fash problem and unruffled disagreed. Now here they are banning “Zionist” bars, while openly being a Tankie bar.
I am amazed that they don’t defederate from Hexbear despite all their supposed hatred and grievances towards the instance. Like you have Hexbear saying verbatim that tankies will kill anarchists, and you… just shrug?
Db0 sometimes attacks Tankies, although self-admittedly, he is soft on them. Other times, he even camps with them.
They’ve both told me that they prefer spending time with tankies instead of liberals, and consider liberals the bigger threat than tankies are. Which is curious considering the history of MLs and anarchists with how the MLs often betray anarchists. I believe their accusations of calling this community a nazi-bar stems from insecurity of their own spaces, where they regularly defend prominent tankies.
I’ve never seen unruffled attack them though.
Honestly, I’d prefer to hang out with social liberals than with tankies. Tankies are on a level with fash/nazis, monarchists and religious extremists for me.
thats what i tried to convince them, that they’re better off with social liberals instead of tankies. Instantly got silenced.
They are probably just tankies disguised as anarchists then.
Some of them are. I noted before, but any anarchist who leaps to defend authoritarian states like China or Russia are not anarchists.
At least some of them are tankies disguised as anarchists. Just look at a specific someone from the lefty memes community. Constantly bringing tankie talking points, but claims to be an anarchist.
Yeah after looking at the history of Ukrainian anarchists I just don’t understand how anyone could be a bigger threat than tankies.
It’s because they’re both communist, so Anarchists keep trying to believe in “Left Unity”
Anarchists who don’t want to align with tankies are attacked for not believing in left unity, both by a few other anarchists and by many other tankies.
Somehow “left unity” always means everyone else adjusting to MLs and not the other way
Because MLs are sociopaths and I can’t imagine a non-sociopath being a convinced Marxist-Leninist who wishes death on people who follow left and humanist ideologies.
Another report calling someone Zionist for being against guilt by association.
how are you viewing these reports?
Because I am an admin and any report against or by a member of my instance I can see. I mean this was all triggered because mathemachristian was complaining about a ban and I call him out for being a troublemaker. And then they turned against the feddit admins in the thread because I banned an antizionist for slinging insults and starting fights.
A small excerpt of his rapsheet
cringe
uhhhhh… saying death to any country or group is inherently violent and extremist.
What gave me pause was this
Calling for the destruction of Israel must obviously mean you want to kill every last man, woman and child, rather than simply wanting to overthrow Netanyahu’s genocidal fascist regime. Because [bad faith] reasons.
I told them that it is not good to wish death on Israel or Palestine. Just because shitty people are in power, doesn’t mean the populace has to suffer because of it. It doesn’t matter which side.
Travel writer Rick Steves recorded a taxi driver in Tehran exclaiming “Death to traffic!” in English, explaining that “when something frustrates us and we have no control over it, this is what we say”. Steves compares the phrase to non-literal use of the word damn in American English.
There’s definitely a cultural translation issue here
Tehranian’s talking about death to inanimate abstractions that must be interpreted figuratively have an excuse that competent English writers who understand coherent literal meanings do not. We don’t use “death to” this way: the right word is “fuck”, eg, “fuck traffic!”, “fuck Israel!”.
i can get behind fuck israel
fuck both israel palestine and the hidden palestine (jordan)
There is a crowd of people who will call you a zionist for anything. Yesterday someone reposted a neo Nazi and used Nazi language in their post title. Me calling them on it? Makes me a zionist, obviously.
All because we don’t let them do as they like. Feddit is welcome to everybody who sticks to the rules. And the rules make it automatically difficult for people who follow hateful ideologies. I try my best to be fair to our community. Meanwhile certain dbzer0 users want us to ban people for simply believing Israel should exist, even if they are opposed to Netanyahu’s regime and want settlers out of the West Bank.
And the rules make it automatically difficult for people who follow hateful ideologies
Way to tell on themselves. Imagine turning your need for calls to violence into a make or break issue for your entire instance? lol, lmao even.
If you look through the thread the admins use examples of troll comments calling for violence and threatening other users as evidence of censorship and zionism.
in the comment i posted in this sub they were called out
It’s also funny because some of the comments they cite as having been removed by the “Zionist” mods are literally just “Go fuck yourself you piece of trash!” followed by the actual argument. What do you think, were they banned for the first or the second half of their comment? Nuance seems to be completely dead on this instance, which is saddening to see because I greatly value the contributions of @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com. Seems like i’s a personal vendetta from one of the admins.
Unruffled and draconic NEO are the main drivers in the thread.
i’d love a neutral place for people to discuss their issues and come to a consensus instead of flinging shit between spaces. you can’t post in dbzer0 since you’re banned, so they can say whatever they want about you.
i’m unsure if you’ve banned any of them.
Actually, I was only banned from YPTB and Lefty Memes. I can still post on dbzer0.
oh, is there a reason why you’re not contesting in the thread? not worth the drama?
It’s telling that they ban you without allowing you to explain yourself. Ultimately, dbzer0 has a severe antisemitism problem, and I think we’re seeing some of their users realise that.
(not so subtle reminder that dbzer0 users are allowed to post in this community, as is everyone)
I explained myself on YPTB and to some dbzer0 users who were visiting here on alt accounts and they ignored 90% of it or weren’t interested in my reasons.
that’s been my experience with them. they don’t tend to argue in good faith.
dbzer0 seems like a silly place, let’s not go there
Ridiculous, but seeing this post - good riddance. Still, what a dumb way to lose contributors to their instance.
I came across a dbzer0 post with a discussion about this, the commenters were using really cringy pirate speech like „Arrr Matey“. I thought they were chatbots.
Wish I was surprised.
