• rockerface🇺🇦@lemmy.cafe
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    6 months ago

    Maybe they were just good at keeping on the mask, but it’s a bit sad because I remember a year ago seeing most of db0 openly clowning on tankies whenever they showed up.

    Now Unruffled seems to be pushing to make the whole instance explicitly tankie/campist.

    • goat@sh.itjust.worksOPM
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      6 months ago

      Db0 sometimes attacks Tankies, although self-admittedly, he is soft on them. Other times, he even camps with them.

      They’ve both told me that they prefer spending time with tankies instead of liberals, and consider liberals the bigger threat than tankies are. Which is curious considering the history of MLs and anarchists with how the MLs often betray anarchists. I believe their accusations of calling this community a nazi-bar stems from insecurity of their own spaces, where they regularly defend prominent tankies.

      I’ve never seen unruffled attack them though.

      • TanteRegenbogen@feddit.orgM
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        6 months ago

        Honestly, I’d prefer to hang out with social liberals than with tankies. Tankies are on a level with fash/nazis, monarchists and religious extremists for me.

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          6 months ago

          thats what i tried to convince them, that they’re better off with social liberals instead of tankies. Instantly got silenced.

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              6 months ago

              Some of them are. I noted before, but any anarchist who leaps to defend authoritarian states like China or Russia are not anarchists.

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        6 months ago

        At least some of them are tankies disguised as anarchists. Just look at a specific someone from the lefty memes community. Constantly bringing tankie talking points, but claims to be an anarchist.

      • rockerface🇺🇦@lemmy.cafe
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        6 months ago

        Yeah after looking at the history of Ukrainian anarchists I just don’t understand how anyone could be a bigger threat than tankies.

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          6 months ago

          It’s because they’re both communist, so Anarchists keep trying to believe in “Left Unity”

          Anarchists who don’t want to align with tankies are attacked for not believing in left unity, both by a few other anarchists and by many other tankies.

            • TanteRegenbogen@feddit.orgM
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              6 months ago

              Because MLs are sociopaths and I can’t imagine a non-sociopath being a convinced Marxist-Leninist who wishes death on people who follow left and humanist ideologies.

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      6 months ago

      db0 is super cucked too. He pointed out that they have a red fash problem and unruffled disagreed. Now here they are banning “Zionist” bars, while openly being a Tankie bar.

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        6 months ago

        I am amazed that they don’t defederate from Hexbear despite all their supposed hatred and grievances towards the instance. Like you have Hexbear saying verbatim that tankies will kill anarchists, and you… just shrug?