Shes a good candidate. God forbid someone intelligent and qualified runs for office.
She’s trash, shes neither intelligent or qualified
The days of progressives holding their nose to vote are over, we’ve been very clear about that
If this post can’t survive on a leftist echo chamber like lemmy without getting ratio’d then how are leftist supposed to do better than democrats?
I don’t think leftists are supposed to get a say. It sure seems like that candidacy was railroaded. I assume it’ll keep happening until infighting stops. I’d rather see an election where the Harris’s of the world are considered conservative candidates.
We have two right wing parties in the US, I fully agree.
Nuance.
Nuance in rhetoric, but same support of corporate top-down controlled government that doesn’t give a shit about progress or rights.
The only infighting is liberals that occup leftist spaces, bring their liberalism with them to tell us how weve got it all wrong and heres the solutions we need
People who are liberals look upon the principles of Marxism as abstract dogma. They approve of Marxism, but are not prepared to practice it or to practice it in full; they are not prepared to replace their liberalism by Marxism. These people have their Marxism, but they have their liberalism as well–they talk Marxism but practice liberalism; they apply Marxism to others but liberalism to themselves. They keep both kinds of goods in stock and find a use for each. This is how the minds of certain people work.
Interesting… so that is why leftists consistently lose elections.
Zohran Mamdani, AOC, Rashida Talib, Ro Khana, Ilhan Omar, Bernie Sanders, and the rest of the progressives would like a word
All in blue states and still a very small number relative to the democrats that can win outside of blue states.
In other words they can’t win a nation wide election.
Your party has lost 2 elections to a carnival barker. It’s time to sit down
Democrats have won the majority of nation wide elections since the 90s.
Trump lost by a larger amount in 2020 than Harris did in 2024.
If right wingers followed the leftist playbook of not voting Trump would’ve lost in 2024 too.
Leftists are the smallest demographic of voters in a democracy.
Your only concern is winning the election and not for advancing workers rights. Obtaining power then doing nothing with it is a lost election.
Leftists are the smallest demographic of voters in a democracy.
Yet liberals always come begging for our support, we are Schrodinger’s leftist, too small to matter and needed to win elections.
Your only concern is winning the election and not for advancing workers rights.
You can’t advance workers rights without winning elections first
Obtaining power then doing nothing with it is a lost election
Blaming the Democratic Party for the actions of the few that vote against their Democratic party is disingenuous.
Politicians can run as democrats when they aren’t.
Special interest groups can threaten, bribe or blackmail just enough to block legislation they don’t want. Then you scape goat the party that they voted against. It doesn’t make sense.
Yet liberals always come begging for our support
Anyone trying to win will reach out to anybody that can vote and try to win them over. This is how we know leftist aren’t trying to win or maybe don’t realize they are losing/unpopular because their own behavior.
Interesting a women never won na election yet you pussy licking Harris one of the worst american politicians at the same level as Newsome and Trump
By not relying on Democrats and creating your own party?
With what voters?
She’s trying to sell another book.
All these Israeli backed politicians need to be arrested for treason and have their assets siezed. Make traitors afraid again!
Hell no, KH needs to go!
Binary choice.
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Someone has to hold Democrats accountable, liberals sure as fuck dont. If they did someone like Trump would have never risen to power.
Trump rose to power because leftists were more worried about “holding democrats accountable” than stopping Trump
How did that work out last time? As long as there is an electoral college then you can’t hold people accountable.
If debbie wasserman schalz, hillary clinton, and the rest of establishment dems didn’t screw Bernie Sanders out of the democratic nomination TWICE, we would have had universal healthcare and legal weed in all 50 states by now.
That would never have happened because the typical Democrat would have gotten in the way. It’s good to dream big but be realistic.
It worked out quite well, eventually it might force the DNC to rethink their methods protecting the status quo over the working class if they want to win elections.
Just fuck off. Only talking about Palestine when your bitch is mentionned
The dems are pandering to the conservatives because they aren’t voting for the dems, just saying…
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She did way better than any leftists would’ve done. Just look at nations wide election results or the ratio of leftist candidates and voters compared to other ideologies.
But it is still true that if leftists don’t vote for the left most candidate that the government will slide right. That’s just how democracies work.
The Overton Window shift rightward has been in Democratic platform and rhetoric, but sure punch left.
Voters arent voting for leftists candidates nation wide. That’s a fact, it isn’t “punching left”.
For some reason leftists are more interested in attacking the Democratic Party that gives them a platform than winning over voters.
For some reason leftists are more interested in attacking the Democratic Party that gives them a platform than winning over voters.
For some reason, liberals both want leftist votes and don’t want to cater to leftist voters. Pick a lane, either liberals need the left or not.
Anyway, it sure seems like liberals hate the right, but clearly not enough to compromise with the left over compromising with the right.
Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds.
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The only reality is democrats are right wing larping as progressive
Fact
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Dems want leftists to accept reality, which is that leftists have a lot of work to do before their policies can pass, and that their current “strategy” works against them, since they’re attacking the only vehicle through which their policies could gain some traction.
their current “strategy” works against them, since they’re attacking the only vehicle through which their policies could gain some traction.
the only vehicle through which their policies could gain some traction.
Yeah, y’know when you’ve tried to fix your car like 30 times, and you’re staring down another $2k repair on a car worth half that… at some point I would start throwing duct tape on the thing and scrap it when I can hopefully get a better car. You want me to pretend it’s the only car in the world worth keeping, but I’m telling you it’s scrap metal.
Cool analogy, bro.
Even in your scenario, the car is broken because you haven’t been doing the proper maintenance, and you’ll never afford that other car because you’re currently working for a different kind of currency than what’s accepted where you live.
But I do accept you’d rather do business with the scrap metal dealer and leave yourself with no mode of transportation than fix your fucking car.
The car mechanic you are advocating for is corrupt as fuck. Does bandaid quality work then breaks something else so you have to come back for future repairs.
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They didn’t speak truth, they spoke their lies.
Apparently it’s against the rules 😮
I wonder if mods see the irony of their other rule against any type of prejudice.
What’s against the rules is advocating for liberalism which is not welcome here
If leftists are the smallest voting demographic then why don’t they try to appeal to centrists like democrats do?
It seems like leftists do this to lose on purpose so they can just keep complaining without changing anything.
Why does a voting demographic not appeal to centrists??? Do you know what a demographic is??
Yep, and leftists are the smallest with the least amount of voting power.
If they want to get leftist legislation passed without compromise they have to win over voters until they have enough numbers. Until they do that they have two options:
- Lose
- compromise for a win
Attacking the democrats that give leftist a platform is a bad look and one of the many reason leftists are such a small unpopular demographic.
So how does a demographic get together to make decisions in order to win over voters? They’re presented with two options, and have to choose, what should the deliberation process and decision making look like for a demographic? Is it different for the age 18-25, black, academic, leftist demographic?
Democrats are right wing and do nothing to earn our vote. But they were fighting tooth and nail to get the republican vote.
They fight to get enough votes to win.
There are no political parties with enough voters to win without winning over voters from outside their group.
Leftists are the smallest voting demographic. If they don’t start taking notes from democrats they will never win a nationwide election.
Take notes from neoliberals that are owned by lobbyists, bankers and CEOs that work against the working class? That’s gonna be a hard pass, if that’s what you call winning you can keep it.
Exactly… for example Fetterman, Sinema, Manchin… I’m starting to see a pattern here
That pattern is called a rotating villain which the DNC has utilized for decades to give the impression they are trying if it wasnt for those meddling politicians within their own party.
Nope, that’s just lobbyist doing what they do. They can do it to any candidate even progressives like Fetterman and Sinema.
This will not change until Citizens United is undone. If leftists don’t factor this into their strategy then they will continue to lose nation wide.
There are so many ways the billionaire class can influence politicians: blackmail, bribery, threats and there will always be people trying to influence politicians. Pretending this is something the Democratic Party is colluding to is disingenuous.
There were 10 years of Democrats occupying the White House where they could have tried to overturn citizens united, there has not been a single attempt. Democrats do not want to overturn citizens united because they benefit so much from it
What leftist candidate?
Exactly
Bernie Sanders would have won all three elections he was cheated out of
He would never win a nation wide election. Pretending otherwise is pure copium.
Go visit some red states or rural areas of blue states and see how popular Bernie is.
Solidly blood red stater here. Plenty of people who voted djt/hrc said they would have gladly voted Sanders/hrc.
