She did way better than any leftists would’ve done. Just look at nations wide election results or the ratio of leftist candidates and voters compared to other ideologies.
But it is still true that if leftists don’t vote for the left most candidate that the government will slide right. That’s just how democracies work.
Dems want leftists to accept reality, which is that leftists have a lot of work to do before their policies can pass, and that their current “strategy” works against them, since they’re attacking the only vehicle through which their policies could gain some traction.
their current “strategy” works against them, since they’re attacking the only vehicle through which their policies could gain some traction.
the only vehicle through which their policies could gain some traction.
Yeah, y’know when you’ve tried to fix your car like 30 times, and you’re staring down another $2k repair on a car worth half that… at some point I would start throwing duct tape on the thing and scrap it when I can hopefully get a better car. You want me to pretend it’s the only car in the world worth keeping, but I’m telling you it’s scrap metal.
Even in your scenario, the car is broken because you haven’t been doing the proper maintenance, and you’ll never afford that other car because you’re currently working for a different kind of currency than what’s accepted where you live.
But I do accept you’d rather do business with the scrap metal dealer and leave yourself with no mode of transportation than fix your fucking car.
The car mechanic you are advocating for is corrupt as fuck. Does bandaid quality work then breaks something else so you have to come back for future repairs.
I love that even two leftists together can’t come up with the idea of fixing the car themselves. Maybe bc on a subconscious level they know they’re not capable 😂
Yep, and leftists are the smallest with the least amount of voting power.
If they want to get leftist legislation passed without compromise they have to win over voters until they have enough numbers. Until they do that they have two options:
Lose
compromise for a win
Attacking the democrats that give leftist a platform is a bad look and one of the many reason leftists are such a small unpopular demographic.
So how does a demographic get together to make decisions in order to win over voters? They’re presented with two options, and have to choose, what should the deliberation process and decision making look like for a demographic? Is it different for the age 18-25, black, academic, leftist demographic?
Take notes from neoliberals that are owned by lobbyists, bankers and CEOs that work against the working class? That’s gonna be a hard pass, if that’s what you call winning you can keep it.
That pattern is called a rotating villain which the DNC has utilized for decades to give the impression they are trying if it wasnt for those meddling politicians within their own party.
Nope, that’s just lobbyist doing what they do. They can do it to any candidate even progressives like Fetterman and Sinema.
This will not change until Citizens United is undone. If leftists don’t factor this into their strategy then they will continue to lose nation wide.
There are so many ways the billionaire class can influence politicians: blackmail, bribery, threats and there will always be people trying to influence politicians. Pretending this is something the Democratic Party is colluding to is disingenuous.
There were 10 years of Democrats occupying the White House where they could have tried to overturn citizens united, there has not been a single attempt. Democrats do not want to overturn citizens united because they benefit so much from it
She did way better than any leftists would’ve done. Just look at nations wide election results or the ratio of leftist candidates and voters compared to other ideologies.
But it is still true that if leftists don’t vote for the left most candidate that the government will slide right. That’s just how democracies work.
The Overton Window shift rightward has been in Democratic platform and rhetoric, but sure punch left.
Voters arent voting for leftists candidates nation wide. That’s a fact, it isn’t “punching left”.
For some reason leftists are more interested in attacking the Democratic Party that gives them a platform than winning over voters.
For some reason, liberals both want leftist votes and don’t want to cater to leftist voters. Pick a lane, either liberals need the left or not.
Anyway, it sure seems like liberals hate the right, but clearly not enough to compromise with the left over compromising with the right.
Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds.
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The only reality is democrats are right wing larping as progressive
Fact
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Yeah, y’know when you’ve tried to fix your car like 30 times, and you’re staring down another $2k repair on a car worth half that… at some point I would start throwing duct tape on the thing and scrap it when I can hopefully get a better car. You want me to pretend it’s the only car in the world worth keeping, but I’m telling you it’s scrap metal.
Cool analogy, bro.
Even in your scenario, the car is broken because you haven’t been doing the proper maintenance, and you’ll never afford that other car because you’re currently working for a different kind of currency than what’s accepted where you live.
But I do accept you’d rather do business with the scrap metal dealer and leave yourself with no mode of transportation than fix your fucking car.
The car mechanic you are advocating for is corrupt as fuck. Does bandaid quality work then breaks something else so you have to come back for future repairs.
I love that even two leftists together can’t come up with the idea of fixing the car themselves. Maybe bc on a subconscious level they know they’re not capable 😂
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They didn’t speak truth, they spoke their lies.
Apparently it’s against the rules 😮
I wonder if mods see the irony of their other rule against any type of prejudice.
What’s against the rules is advocating for liberalism which is not welcome here
If leftists are the smallest voting demographic then why don’t they try to appeal to centrists like democrats do?
It seems like leftists do this to lose on purpose so they can just keep complaining without changing anything.
Why does a voting demographic not appeal to centrists??? Do you know what a demographic is??
Yep, and leftists are the smallest with the least amount of voting power.
If they want to get leftist legislation passed without compromise they have to win over voters until they have enough numbers. Until they do that they have two options:
Attacking the democrats that give leftist a platform is a bad look and one of the many reason leftists are such a small unpopular demographic.
So how does a demographic get together to make decisions in order to win over voters? They’re presented with two options, and have to choose, what should the deliberation process and decision making look like for a demographic? Is it different for the age 18-25, black, academic, leftist demographic?
I’m sorry I can’t understand it for you…
Democrats are right wing and do nothing to earn our vote. But they were fighting tooth and nail to get the republican vote.
They fight to get enough votes to win.
There are no political parties with enough voters to win without winning over voters from outside their group.
Leftists are the smallest voting demographic. If they don’t start taking notes from democrats they will never win a nationwide election.
Take notes from neoliberals that are owned by lobbyists, bankers and CEOs that work against the working class? That’s gonna be a hard pass, if that’s what you call winning you can keep it.
Exactly… for example Fetterman, Sinema, Manchin… I’m starting to see a pattern here
That pattern is called a rotating villain which the DNC has utilized for decades to give the impression they are trying if it wasnt for those meddling politicians within their own party.
Nope, that’s just lobbyist doing what they do. They can do it to any candidate even progressives like Fetterman and Sinema.
This will not change until Citizens United is undone. If leftists don’t factor this into their strategy then they will continue to lose nation wide.
There are so many ways the billionaire class can influence politicians: blackmail, bribery, threats and there will always be people trying to influence politicians. Pretending this is something the Democratic Party is colluding to is disingenuous.
There were 10 years of Democrats occupying the White House where they could have tried to overturn citizens united, there has not been a single attempt. Democrats do not want to overturn citizens united because they benefit so much from it
What leftist candidate?
Exactly
Bernie Sanders would have won all three elections he was cheated out of
He would never win a nation wide election. Pretending otherwise is pure copium.
Go visit some red states or rural areas of blue states and see how popular Bernie is.
Solidly blood red stater here. Plenty of people who voted djt/hrc said they would have gladly voted Sanders/hrc.