Hi. I’m looking for a good code editor that doesn’t have any AI in it at all. My problem is, I like modern code editors like VSCodium, but I think it has AI or at least supports it. I know Zed has AI and Zed is kind of complicated to use. Here are my requests for a code editor:
No AI or telemetry Built-in live preview for HTML Built-in terminal Extensions
Right now, I’m using Pulsar, but it has no live preview that I know of. Any suggestions help. I’m not a fan of notepad++, though. It’s very complicated to setup and use. Thanks in advance!
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Zed has a simple disable_ai: true config setting which disables everything related to AI.
I have never heard it’s complicated from anyone. I use it every day and it’s amazing.
I’m giving Zed another shot. I like the layout. I’m not sure if it has Live Preview or not, but I’ll look into it.
You should try Gram instead. It is a Zed fork with all the AI and other anti-features removed.
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The mission page for gram, as someone unfamiliar with it until this thread, is genuinely a thing of beauty.
It’s great, even has a Helix mode for us Helix users!
Is that a thing ?
Is what a thing? Helix?
Thank you! Noted!
Looks like sublime text. How does it differ?
It is actually a fork of Zed with AI features removed.
Neovim. No other editor comes close to it.
I love Neovim, but it lacks live HTML preview that the OP specifically requested
That’s super easy to fix with tools like entr. That’s what I use when I write Markdown documents so I can automatically generate the plain text file to a PDF document using Pandoc, and preview it simply by saving the file in Neovim. :)
I also second this!
vim
Emacs!!!
Should work with embedded webkit widgets for the preview.
Not sure about preview, but Kate?
I got markdown previews somehow so it can probably do HTML too!
Kate rules.
I’m always surprised by its sheer power
It does have preview, the plugin has to be enabled/may need some libraries installed.
Kate’s dope for everything, small notes, code.
If you like/don’t mind working in the terminal, Neovim can do basically anything, it’s hyper-modular. But the learning curve is very steep. The people who use it are absolutely devoted, and it’s an incredible piece of software, but it’s not made with the beginner in mind.
If you want a traditional GUI app, Kate from the KDE team is a really nice, reasonably lightweight IDE. Kate IDE
It’s like a simplified VSCodium. It has all the basic IDE features, LSP and syntax highlighting for 400+ programming languages, tabs/panes/window support, code breakpoints, Git integration, built-in terminal execution, and community plugins for various other features.
The one thing Kate doesn’t have for your use case, is a built-in live HTML preview. Technically, Kate actually supports a simple HTML live preview if you enable it, but only in the Linux version, and from what I read online, other than very basic HTML stuff, it’s not very good. There may be a community plugin that somebody built, but you would need to research that yourself.
Geany is quite a nice, simple editor. Very lightweight, open-source, and no AI.
The line break system is weird and should be opt-in, not opt-out, but yes, otherwise, Geany is great! I’ve otherwise simply been using Xed on Linux Mint.
Second this!
You can easily disable all AI features in Zed.
I was going to mention the same. Zed has a single global “Disable AI” option which works well.
not enough. we need ZERO a.i trash. Why need to waste developing energy in develop a.i shit? no need. i repeat: we need ZERO A.I trash in a text editor
Gram, an AI free Zed fork, fits this perfectly.
As an other commenter mentioned, you can read their mission statement here: https://gram-editor.com/docs/mission/
well, seems like Gram just take it down. F
great!
Vscodium
Free/Libre Open Source Software Binaries of VS Code. VSCodium is a community-driven, freely-licensed binary distribution of Microsoft’s editor VS Code.
I second this!
Who cares if it supports AI if it doesn’t ship with it by default?
Most ship with it by default now, but the good ones make it really easy to opt in or fully out (which one it is exactly differs by editors)
Neovim so many plugins and customization you can look st chadvim or lazyvim plugins for it
If you’re willing to go into the terminal based editor rabbit hole, I recommend going straight to helix, coming from vim/neovim in the past it’s much easier to get into and maintain since it’s batteries included and doesn’t take huge dotfiles to configure it like you want, and the movement feels more intuitive to me than vim’s
Helix is tainted: https://github.com/helix-editor/helix/pull/15433/commits
are you literally showing a 2 line change and saying “helix is tainted” because this tiny tiny change was co-authored by claude? lmao come on
I will say why did they even bother using Claude for this.
What? That PR does very little?
You don’t understand they didn’t use metadata!
