Law enforcement asking kids for ID for walking down the street?
And its NOT The Onion?
What jurisdiction does ICE have again?
in my country every citizen is required by law to have paper that allow identification. Glad to learn im not in a free country. For thoses curious it s an european country.
I don’t know why the downvotes. Yeah, this is how it works in many (most?) parts of the world, legally speaking the police can require you to show papers or get detained. In the EU it’s a bit easier because “papers” is typically either your driving license or just a small plastic card with identification info which easily fits into a wallet or a phone case. E.g. in Russia you are required to always carry an A6-sized paper “passport book” (!) which contains a lot of info about you (name, place of birth, place of permanent residence, place of temporary residence, marital status, children, etc) and present it to the police when asked.
If the definition of a free country is “police can’t force you to present a valid ID while in a public place” then I doubt there are many “free countries” on earth at all.
I agree that it’s kinda dumb and it sucks, IMO the police should have at the very least a reasonable suspicion of some criminal activity in order to arrest you, but it’s not unique to the US.
here they are lenient with it. A picture on your phone is enough and you also have gouvernement app that can be use. I dont feel like my freedom is impeach because of it
Do you have to identify yourself/show your papers on-demand?
yes, specially to police officers. If i dont have them i can be detain in a police station the time they proceed to my identification
So cops can just walk up and say “hey show me your papers!” and you have to comply? Lots of us have issues with that. What if you’re at a protest or some other decidedly anti-statusquo do you still have to identify yourself? What obligations do the police have? Do they have to identify themselves (name/badge) or is it enough to wear a uniform?
you can refuse, but then police can detain you. Im not aware of police having the obligation to identify themself and i never saw them doing that. As far i know them having the uniform is enough.
I mean I don’t know where you are from but at least where I live they have to identify if asked to and they can’t just detain you without cause. While cause can be pretty broad, like there was a crime in the neighborhood, it can’t be “we don’t like your face”.
In france. Cause can be you dont present an id.
Interesting, the United States is geographically very dispersed (the state of Texas is roughly the same geographic size as France) so carrying documents for internal travel makes less sense.
Thanks for contributing to the discussion, I gave you a couple upvotes to cancel out the haters (not that those matter here).
What kind of documentation and what country?
id and france
Not even true lol
https://www.service-public.gouv.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F11601
bro didnt even read the second ligne
Néanmoins, si vous êtes soumis à un contrôle d’identité, la procédure sera plus longue si vous ne pouvez pas présenter de pièce d’identité.
Si vous refusez ou si vous ne pouvez pas justifier votre identité, vous pouvez être retenu, sur place ou au commissariat de police, pour une vérification.
Try to wiggle your way out of it all you want. Potentially having to undergo a more difficult procedure does not equal a legal duty to have identification. Your claim
in my country every citizen is required by law to have paper that allow identification
Is simply false. It’s a lie to support your position.
so tell me what hapen if police control me and i can’t proove my identity (cause i dont have my paper on me) ?
As you cited, your identity will be established at the station. Just admit to your lie instead of trying weird distraction tactics.
so you get detained by the police. Thank you
Just saying “thank you” like you had a good gotcha moment, doesn’t change the situation here. You got caught in a lie and you have no point.
