Yes, the naivety of OOP not realizing that southern Europe is some of the most expensive real estate in the world and that the Americans moving there are moving with hoarded wealth is hilarious to me. “Let them eat cake” energy
Yeah, give Mexico City a try. It’s very much the same, only not so financially out of reach. You can get an okay house there for like $70,000 so you can buy a $2.5 million mansion. It’s up to you and what kind of money you have.
I’m just coming back off of three weeks there and holy crap what a difference between America and Mexico.
Every street corner has foot traffic. There are shops every two city blocks for a 20 mile radius. There’s a variety and art and culture, and everyone’s just taking it easy. No one’s in a big rush, even when their traffic is absolutely insane, it’s insanity that’s dealt with with a logical mind.
Culturally, America is 100 years behind Mexico City.
Mexico City has horrible air quality, is running out of water, and is literally sinking because of over-consumption tho? Not exactly where I’d want to make any long-term plans.
I haven’t been to Mexico City, but I did get to go to Puerto Vallarta, and it seemed to match that person’s experience. It was safe, cheap, and beautiful. Honestly I don’t remember seeing people living in sheds, but it might have been outside of the places we visited. Traffic was annoying, but less than a similar-sized city in the US. It helped that lot of people walked or used bikes. And the food was really fresh.
The guy we were visiting was from the US and had moved there essentially because it was so nice while still having a very low cost of living compared to probably anywhere in the US. He mentioned the culture there was much more relaxed about time, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they had a lot in common with OP’s view of Southern Europe.
What are you talking about? Real estate prices in southern Europe vary widely. Centers of the main cities on the coast are very expensive, everything else not so much. You will find the same lifestyle in Marbella and Cordoba but the prices are completely different. Not to mention all the smaller towns and villages with lots of real estate for sale. “Hoarded wealth” my ass.
Yeah that’s just bullshit. Housing is expensive in main hubs like the Netherlands or Germany in Berlin or whatever. Not everywhere, by a long shot. Though we know why: commuting an hour is the norm
Ugh. Prosperity Gospel. I can’t even begin to describe how much I loathe this concept.
I’m no theologian, but I see this as a perversion of the Protestant Work Ethic. The optics are the same, but the cause-and-effect are swapped in order to whitewash (bible-wash?) greedy behavior.
Seattle. It’s changed a lot, but it used to be affordable and that it was taboo to even ask where you worked. Reps would blow you off constantly to go skiing or hiking. Now, the greeds have taken completely over, but the lifestyle remains.
You’re mentioning one city, talking about needing money to live there. The entire continent of Europe is like the op’s post. Not just southern Europe and not just cities. And you don’t need to be rich to live there.
Madison, Wisconsin. Most of the Great Lakes area (sans Chicago) in my experience. It’s a beautiful region. Lots of cultural holdover from the Scandi immigrants that first populated it
There are places in America that are like this, you have to be able to afford it though.
Yes, the naivety of OOP not realizing that southern Europe is some of the most expensive real estate in the world and that the Americans moving there are moving with hoarded wealth is hilarious to me. “Let them eat cake” energy
Last time I checked there were actually non-rich people in southern Europe.
People don’t seem to realize that rich people actually need non-rich people living near them, and they’re not all live-in servants.
There’s like 6 of them
That’s objectively false, why don’t you try meeting some actual Europeans instead of getting all your information from travel magazines?
Most of Southern Europe is significantly poorer than most of Northern Europe…
Yeah, give Mexico City a try. It’s very much the same, only not so financially out of reach. You can get an okay house there for like $70,000 so you can buy a $2.5 million mansion. It’s up to you and what kind of money you have.
I’m just coming back off of three weeks there and holy crap what a difference between America and Mexico.
Every street corner has foot traffic. There are shops every two city blocks for a 20 mile radius. There’s a variety and art and culture, and everyone’s just taking it easy. No one’s in a big rush, even when their traffic is absolutely insane, it’s insanity that’s dealt with with a logical mind.
Culturally, America is 100 years behind Mexico City.
Mexico City has horrible air quality, is running out of water, and is literally sinking because of over-consumption tho? Not exactly where I’d want to make any long-term plans.
I’ve been to Mexico a few times, and I never would have described it that way to anybody. I literally saw people living in sheds when I went there.
I haven’t been to Mexico City, but I did get to go to Puerto Vallarta, and it seemed to match that person’s experience. It was safe, cheap, and beautiful. Honestly I don’t remember seeing people living in sheds, but it might have been outside of the places we visited. Traffic was annoying, but less than a similar-sized city in the US. It helped that lot of people walked or used bikes. And the food was really fresh.
The guy we were visiting was from the US and had moved there essentially because it was so nice while still having a very low cost of living compared to probably anywhere in the US. He mentioned the culture there was much more relaxed about time, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they had a lot in common with OP’s view of Southern Europe.
Some cities in Mexico are safe, some are not, just like most countries.
I didn’t see people living in sheds in the city, it was outside the city.
What are you talking about? Real estate prices in southern Europe vary widely. Centers of the main cities on the coast are very expensive, everything else not so much. You will find the same lifestyle in Marbella and Cordoba but the prices are completely different. Not to mention all the smaller towns and villages with lots of real estate for sale. “Hoarded wealth” my ass.
Yeah that’s just bullshit. Housing is expensive in main hubs like the Netherlands or Germany in Berlin or whatever. Not everywhere, by a long shot. Though we know why: commuting an hour is the norm
Are you sure it’s hoarded and they didn’t just spent it on a home in Southern Europe?
I feel like you have never been nor seen from afar the situation in most southern europe countries huh
I dont think OOP has either lol
Where’s this one in the screenshot?
Ugh. Prosperity Gospel. I can’t even begin to describe how much I loathe this concept.
I’m no theologian, but I see this as a perversion of the Protestant Work Ethic. The optics are the same, but the cause-and-effect are swapped in order to whitewash (bible-wash?) greedy behavior.
Living in europe is def more chill than USA but i agree that it’s been romanticised too much lmao
Or be so poor and in such a backwater place that time has no meaning.
That’s where my van’s going.
I’m originally from Mississippi. I feel this comment.
My dad always called it the land that time forgot…
Exactly the kind of place I was thinking. Missouri had the same places.
Where
Seattle. It’s changed a lot, but it used to be affordable and that it was taboo to even ask where you worked. Reps would blow you off constantly to go skiing or hiking. Now, the greeds have taken completely over, but the lifestyle remains.
Ah, so were like this
No, it’s still mostly like this, you just have to be rich to live in the city.
You’re mentioning one city, talking about needing money to live there. The entire continent of Europe is like the op’s post. Not just southern Europe and not just cities. And you don’t need to be rich to live there.
Madison, Wisconsin. Most of the Great Lakes area (sans Chicago) in my experience. It’s a beautiful region. Lots of cultural holdover from the Scandi immigrants that first populated it