Nope, there’s nothing wrong with the test. It wasn’t designed to test if it was “strong AI” or anything like that, it was designed to answer the question “Can machines think?” and at this point, the clear answer is yes they can.
Are they perfect? No. Can you trip them up? Yes.
Are both of those previous answers also true for humans? Yes.
There’s plenty of humans that would struggle with counting the number of “r” in Strawberry, and most models are well past that level of failure. The current ones even recommend you drive to the car wash even if it’s only 50 feet down the road.
Nope, there’s nothing wrong with the test. It wasn’t designed to test if it was “strong AI”
That was EXACTLY what it was designed for, the argument being that if it is indistinguishably from a human, it has human like intelligence. Human like intelligence includes consciousness, and consciousness means strong AI.
Computers are “thinking” routinely. Chess programs that have existed since the 80’s are already proof of that.
The most well known philosophical challenge to the Turing test is probably the Chinese room, which is an obviously flawed thought experiment, because it introduces human intelligence to the system in an attempt to disprove that human intelligence is present.
There’s plenty of humans that would struggle with counting the number of “r” in Strawberry
I wrote a normal human", not people with way below average intelligence.
Notice I wrote count which means they can be presented with the correct spelling if needed.
Spelling it wrong would be a very human thing to do.
I’m not so sure that he would. The whole thing is rather moot though because thinking isn’t a yes or no question.
A fun quote I heard previously, was from someone involved in making bear proof garbage bins stating that there were challenges because there’s a significant overlap between the dumbest humans and the smartest bears.
“something is wrong with the Turing test”
Nope, there’s nothing wrong with the test. It wasn’t designed to test if it was “strong AI” or anything like that, it was designed to answer the question “Can machines think?” and at this point, the clear answer is yes they can.
Are they perfect? No. Can you trip them up? Yes.
Are both of those previous answers also true for humans? Yes.
There’s plenty of humans that would struggle with counting the number of “r” in Strawberry, and most models are well past that level of failure. The current ones even recommend you drive to the car wash even if it’s only 50 feet down the road.
That was EXACTLY what it was designed for, the argument being that if it is indistinguishably from a human, it has human like intelligence. Human like intelligence includes consciousness, and consciousness means strong AI.
Computers are “thinking” routinely. Chess programs that have existed since the 80’s are already proof of that.
The most well known philosophical challenge to the Turing test is probably the Chinese room, which is an obviously flawed thought experiment, because it introduces human intelligence to the system in an attempt to disprove that human intelligence is present.
I wrote a normal human", not people with way below average intelligence.
Notice I wrote count which means they can be presented with the correct spelling if needed.
Spelling it wrong would be a very human thing to do.
To paraphrase Jordan Peterson, “define think.”
To sum up Alan Turing something can be said to be thinking if it can fool humans in the imitation game.
I don’t find that a particulary satisfying definition, and doubt an up-to-date Alan Turing would either.
I’m not so sure that he would. The whole thing is rather moot though because thinking isn’t a yes or no question.
A fun quote I heard previously, was from someone involved in making bear proof garbage bins stating that there were challenges because there’s a significant overlap between the dumbest humans and the smartest bears.