Ahmed@lemmy.zip to Asklemmy@lemmy.ml · 3 days agoCan things exist without anyone being aware of their existence?message-squaremessage-square87linkfedilinkarrow-up147arrow-down111
arrow-up136arrow-down1message-squareCan things exist without anyone being aware of their existence?Ahmed@lemmy.zip to Asklemmy@lemmy.ml · 3 days agomessage-square87linkfedilink
minus-square∟⊔⊤∦∣≶@lemmy.nzlinkfedilinkarrow-up17arrow-down1·3 days agoObviously, yes. But now the question is, can you be aware of things that don’t exist?
minus-squareMeow@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up7arrow-down1·3 days agoAs fiction exists but describes things that may not exist, I think the answer is also yes.
minus-squareAhmed@lemmy.zipOPlinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down6·3 days agoMaybe we’re not aware of a non-existent thing itself, but of an idea or perception in our minds.
minus-squarepmk@piefed.calinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2arrow-down1·3 days agoHow does this differ from having an idea or perception in our minds about existing things?
minus-squareAhmed@lemmy.zipOPlinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down2·3 days agopurely imaginary things exist only in the mind.
minus-squarepmk@piefed.calinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1arrow-down1·2 days agoBut are we aware of existing things in themselves, apart from the idea and perception in our minds?
minus-square∟⊔⊤∦∣≶@lemmy.nzlinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down2·3 days agoActually this is the right answer, and doesn’t deserve the downvotes.
minus-squareMeow@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up1·2 days agoI think me and Ahmed gave the same answer, but with mine being indirect using an example, and Ahmed’s answer being direct, so maybe people had a harder time understanding Ahmed’s answer.
Obviously, yes. But now the question is, can you be aware of things that don’t exist?
As fiction exists but describes things that may not exist, I think the answer is also yes.
Maybe we’re not aware of a non-existent thing itself, but of an idea or perception in our minds.
How does this differ from having an idea or perception in our minds about existing things?
purely imaginary things exist only in the mind.
But are we aware of existing things in themselves, apart from the idea and perception in our minds?
Actually this is the right answer, and doesn’t deserve the downvotes.
I think me and Ahmed gave the same answer, but with mine being indirect using an example, and Ahmed’s answer being direct, so maybe people had a harder time understanding Ahmed’s answer.