- cross-posted to:
- pulse_of_truth@infosec.pub
- cross-posted to:
- pulse_of_truth@infosec.pub
Flock, the automatic license plate reader (ALPR) company, exposed some of the license plate cops were looking for and the reason for doing so.
Flock, the automatic license plate reader (ALPR) company, exposed some of the license plate cops were looking for and the reason for doing so.
Remember it’s not just a license plate reader. There should be a law against calling it that.
Could you explain what you mean further?
On top of what everyone else saod, FLOCK can track your vehicle as you cross several plus states. I would say 90% if not more highways and freeways have them across the US.
Cool tool for stopping real crininals, bad tool on a civil rights side.
People don’t understand “real” criminal in deeply intertwined with regular people and regular cops and politicians. Most “regular” naive people think of criminals as some mythical thing but they are everywhere. It’s almost as if the “straight” legal life is mirrored 1 to 1 with the dark side. And that part of maintaining the “legal” side is to market that the dark side is a myth, even though is there, part of the “legal” sides politics, economy, and culture.
This is basically what happened when people whine about the authority only take action when crime are commited. So now everyone are being watched in every corner.
Cool? Arguable. Useful? Not in practice.
They don’t just read license plates. They analyze faces/pets/distinctive clothing to ID people, scan nearby WiFi and Bluetooth signals to track devices, scan distinctive features of vehicles (dents, scratches, bumper stickers, etc) to track them even without a clear license plate, etc… Calling it a license plate reader vastly downplays their capabilities.
It’s like someone calling a fully automatic high-powered machine gun “a rabbit-hunting gun”. Sure it could be used to shoot rabbits, but that’s vastly understating the capabilities.
Atlanta has them in the middle of parks too far from and facing away from parking lots to read any license plates… they’re there to use facial recognition on children playing on park equipment.
Oh wow.this is just blatantly anti-police. You think cops shouldn’t get to masturbate, just because they’re cops?
And they probably sold the people in charge on the idea that it’s to “protect the children” 🤮
It’s good to point this out, I don’t drive but I forget they could probably track my bike still based on it’s distinctiveness, calling them license plate readers really does obscure the insidiousness well. We’ve heard about automatic license plate readers for years, they weren’t like this so it is really disingenuous to call them such.
oh yeah. like, if the police in town have figured out who i am from my trike, there’s no way the ALPR hasn’t. that thing is fucking distinctive. and i wave hi to everyone (the ALPRs with one finger)
It used to be finger prints people needed to worry about. It so far beyond that now.
ground squirrels. we use the atf tag (it’s not mine, i don’t know what it’s called) machine gun to hunt ground squirrels. i mean you have to kill them for environmental regulation and agricultural control anyways, might as well have some fun.
They’re little computers with cameras that capture everything. I think some of these types of devices run Android. Many are very poorly secured, like the article suggests. A “license plate reader” sounds like it only reads license plates, these are surveillance platforms, with cameras and microphones. They can be accessed remotely to do more than just read a license plate.
I’m thinking the person says that couching it as a license plate reader is disingenuous, because it doesn’t really convey the gravity of what the devices are capable of.
Any “license plate reader” has a camera and can be used for anything. This was true before flock.
‘Can be’ and ‘are’ are two completely different categories of things.
You think USA government agencies never thought of using public surveillance cameras to spy on people before now? That’s like basic stuff for any domestic security agency, in any country. The only difference is that now the data is shared with regular police with all the incompetence and abuse it implies. You have always been spied on.
Yes, ALPR is a term used for the purpose of public relations. It does not accurately describe the technology.
They’re Android. And they’re hella insecure. And hilariously jankilly implemented. I’d be ashamed if this was my states state surveillance infrastructure.
Related videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp9MwZkHiMQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB0gr7Fh6lY
They’re just public cameras. They’re notoriously used to capture and record the locations of vehicles via their license plates but realistically they totally could flip a switch and start using them for things like facial recognition overnight.
No switch to be flipped. Already used that way.
Source?
It uses machine learning algorithms to identify vehicles independently of the license plate. Leaked documentation has also shown they operate facial recognition tech, in direct contradiction to the lies they tell the public. Flock is fundamentally an evil company, delivering the infrastructure for totalitarian rule, wrapped in the alluring false promise of eliminating crime. They know exactly what they are doing, which is why they are so heartily embraced by fascists in government, from the top all the way down.
So the people that like these don’t mind their own privacy being invaded? Perhaps they already know if caught doing something they will get a free pass?
Generally the ones putting them in are on the side of the system that gets a free pass wherever they go. And the majority of the public that allows it to happen fall for the “nothing to hide, nothing to fear” fallacy.
i mean, i can bow and scrape my way into free passes for the occasional thing (it’s usually in exchange for extraordinary services rendered years ago let’s be real), but don’t think for a second i want those flock fuckers in my country.
Not to you, bootlick