• amniotic druid@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    Israelis will blow wherever the wind blows. Don’t let them convince you that they’re totally checking anti drumpf progressives in November when suddenly every other D is taking their money. They will lie, cheat, and steal to keep the US-Zion Siphon going.

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      8 days ago

      That op-ed is from a different author, in a different newspaper, over a decade ago. Not sure what it proves other than “different Israelis have held contrasting political opinions at various points in time.”

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      8 days ago

      I find myself asking this question more and more… But not just the US. How the fuck does Israel have so much power over so many countries. Like just look at the UK and how they’re treating anyone even protesting for Palestine. It’s insane how much power they have over so many countries… I just don’t understand how.

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    8 days ago

    You could have been the greatest president of all

    No, he couldn’t have

    You betrayed us, the Israelis.

    I realize I don’t necessarily speak for all of my fellow Americans when I say this, but I could not possibly care less if Israelis feel betrayed by Trump. He’s not your president, it’s not your government, go fuck yourselves.

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        8 days ago

        I’m sorry but you’re past the 90 day return policy. Best I can do is a discount on the next president you purchase.

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    7 days ago

    “betrayed the Israelis”… Why does America owe Israel anything?

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      7 days ago

      My first Reddit ban was for attempting to ask that question in the most politically neutral way possible.

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        7 days ago

        Completely unrelated but hindsight being 20/20 the warning signs were always there with moderated centralized forums like reddit.

        I have my same reddit acct I’ve had for 15+ years. I’m banned from few aubreddits but my first and most memorable was from AskReddit for doxxing myself. To remove the ban they told me I had to draw a picture of some stupid shit like a giraffe in a Santa hat because it was Christmas or something. That was when I realized I don’t want anything to do with these stupid ass moderators power tripping over a users engagement on a forum. Absolutely asinine.

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    8 days ago

    How can a US president betray “Israelis”. He’s not their president, and America is not their mommies. We owe them exactly nothing. They should get off our tit, and we’d like all the nuclear materials they stole from us returned immediately.

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      3 days ago

      How can a US president betray “Israelis”. He’s not their president,

      sure but not to defend the shit stain, he represents the nation, so if another nation states an “ally”, say Canada…or Denmark or Ukraine or…

      an allegory, you’re married, doesnt mean you can’t betray a friend, perhaps not as deeply as your partner but still.

      Im an Australian, our previous governemnt betrayed the French for example

    • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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      Without the large amount of material and monetary support America provides to keep Israel’s military the strongest in the region, they would get steamrolled by their neighbors. Probably not immediately, but it would be inevitable. Note that I’m not saying anything about whether this is right or wrong from any ethical point of view in any direction, simply that it absolutely would happen. For whatever reason it has consistently been the policy of the American government not to let this happen.

      Israel’s very existence as a modern state has been, shall we say, deeply unpopular with its Arab neighbors literally since day one.

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        7 days ago

        the reason is that its free surveillance on the rest of the region. USA wants to keep an eye on countries they seem hostile and their interests (oil).

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          They also give our surveillance state their surveillance tech and cyberweapons they developed using Palestinians as guinea pigs. They host our police departments and teach them how to treat our citizenry like Palestinians as well.

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    8 days ago

    Sorry man. But EVERYTHING I’ve seen about Netanyahu is just BLOODLUST! They totally leveled Gaza and the Palestine territories they occupied.

    THIS IS NOT THE WAY!

    I used to be a trump and Israel supporter, but my God! How much blood thirst is enough?

    Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope.

    When the orange Cheeto lost to Biden and approved the execution of Pence, (“so what”) that was the end. This worthless sore loser POS was hell bent on mass destruction.

    No dipshit, you don’t deserve the Nobel Peace Prize, or to put your name or image on passports, park passes, or $250 bills. No, stupid, we don’t want or need to see your ugly mug or name on the Kennedy center or federal buildings.

    Just go quietly, into that dark, nameless abyss you crawled out from.

    You have made America a much worse place, you divisive fuck head!

    • damn proud Reagan Republican
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        7 days ago

        You’re just not too bright, so I’ll bite my tongue. But Trump has nothing to do with Reagan. Full stop.

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          7 days ago

          Ad hominem is unnecessary, try to stay on topic.

          Without Reaganomics we wouldn’t have president Trump. Full Stop

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            Total B.S. I was on topic. Trump and MAGA are not the philosophical offspring of Reagan. They are a mutation. They hijacked the party. Trump is the polar opposite of Reagan.

            Reaganomics beat the shit out of whatever Carter was doing in the 70’s; gas shortages with long lines, hyperinflation, mortgage rates went from 8.85% to 16.64% in 4 years. You may well not like Reaganomics, but it damn well saved the country from stagflation.

            Reagan was a self deprecating optimist who believed that America is that shining city on a hill whose best days lie before her. Trump is a loud mouth, divisive, egotistical piece of shit, who is only out for himself and will persecute you to the end of the earth for saying anything bad about him. Their policies, politics, personalities, agendas, world view, are completely opposite.

            It’s really not difficult to disagree without being disagreeable. I think we all pretty much agree that we need to get this chubby, cheating, Cheeto in chief outta there. In the meantime, liberals and conservatives can have lively debates without making it personal.

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              Reaganomics only helped the capitalist class. The only thing to “trickle down” is piss on the working class. We see the long term results of that today.

              Reagan laughed and cut funding while gay people died during the worst of the AIDS epidemic. Closing state mental hospitals ballooned the homeless population. Then , of course there’s the Iran-Contra affair.

              We can agree that Trump needs to go, but what comes after is more important and Reaganite policies will not help us. You insulted my intelligence in the first sentence you wrote to me, so forgive me if I have trouble believing you about not getting personal.

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                OK let’s talk about the Iran contra issue.

                I watched the hearings on CSPAN EVERY SINGLE DAY!


                So. Ollie North overcharged the Iranians for weapons and used the proceeds to fund the Contras. What exactly is your problem with that? Check one box only please.

                1. He overcharged the Iranians for arms.

                2. He used the proceeds to stave off a legitimately evil, hateful, genocidal regime.

                One box only please!

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                Well you insulted my hero. Not trump! I would consider trump and Reagan as 2 poles on the opposite sides of a sphere. Think north and south pole. Trump is actually more like a virus that caused a genetic mutation. No joke.

                1. I’ve been the employer that hired people to do their job. Trust me, it’s not just taking money in, and laughing all the way to the bank. Every dollar that i saved is another dollar I can sink into the company or pay higher wages. “OH wait, company xyz offered you 10% more? I can match that” . I need a buffer. I was not a “capitalist class” . How many complainers have actually run a business that employed people, and had to meet payroll , and had to meet payroll taxes and keep their employees and customers happy?

                2. I was there when HIV became an issue. We had no idea what caused it, how it spread, or what to do about it. It took some time. I was there!

                3. No Reagan didn’t “laugh” when gay people died. - give me 1 unbiased, verifiable link to substantiate that claim.

                4. I’m very sorry but we are 39 trillion dollars in the hole, as laudable as providing state hospitals may have been, we can not afford it at this time. Find a better way. So, what, we’d be like 44 trillion in debt. Is that the inheritance you want to leave your kids?

                As a business owner I’ve had to balance budgets for decades. I would’ve loved to buy that greatest, tech wizzbang thing; it would save/ make so much money. Sorry. Just cant afford it. Like it or not, the BBB allows companies to fully depreciate an asset in the 1st year (i had to wait decades) freeing up more cash to pay higher wages.

                I hate DJT. He is everything Reagan was not.

                I WON’T ALLOW ANYONE TO SULLY THE NAME OF REAGAN BY ASSOCIATING IT WITH TRUMP TO TRY TO FURTHER THEIR POLITICAL AGENDA! IT IS DISINGENUOUS TO SAY THE LEAST.

                DJT and the maga agenda must be hamstriged, hogtied, disabled, overridden, axed, rendered useless, shutdown, crippled, discombobulated, to say the least.

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                  You need to take criticism of your favorite politicians less personally. It’s a bad look. I’m not arguing with a cultist who is incapable of seeing reason. I hope you have a good weekend and have a chance to relax and reflect.

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                  I’m sorry. My bad.

                  I forgot to mention unemployment insurance and workman’s compensation insurance costs.

  • VelvetPinkOtter123@lemmy.world
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    Trump is such a massive fucking idiot he really could have been the greatest president if the media wasn’t up their own ass with hate

    Todays headline: “No president can figure out socialized health care. Obama tried but failed”

    Tomorrows headline: “It would take a great president to solve Americas Healthcare crisis”

    etc…