• barneyrubble@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    You’re just not too bright, so I’ll bite my tongue. But Trump has nothing to do with Reagan. Full stop.

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      8 days ago

      Ad hominem is unnecessary, try to stay on topic.

      Without Reaganomics we wouldn’t have president Trump. Full Stop

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        7 days ago

        Total B.S. I was on topic. Trump and MAGA are not the philosophical offspring of Reagan. They are a mutation. They hijacked the party. Trump is the polar opposite of Reagan.

        Reaganomics beat the shit out of whatever Carter was doing in the 70’s; gas shortages with long lines, hyperinflation, mortgage rates went from 8.85% to 16.64% in 4 years. You may well not like Reaganomics, but it damn well saved the country from stagflation.

        Reagan was a self deprecating optimist who believed that America is that shining city on a hill whose best days lie before her. Trump is a loud mouth, divisive, egotistical piece of shit, who is only out for himself and will persecute you to the end of the earth for saying anything bad about him. Their policies, politics, personalities, agendas, world view, are completely opposite.

        It’s really not difficult to disagree without being disagreeable. I think we all pretty much agree that we need to get this chubby, cheating, Cheeto in chief outta there. In the meantime, liberals and conservatives can have lively debates without making it personal.

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          7 days ago

          Reaganomics only helped the capitalist class. The only thing to “trickle down” is piss on the working class. We see the long term results of that today.

          Reagan laughed and cut funding while gay people died during the worst of the AIDS epidemic. Closing state mental hospitals ballooned the homeless population. Then , of course there’s the Iran-Contra affair.

          We can agree that Trump needs to go, but what comes after is more important and Reaganite policies will not help us. You insulted my intelligence in the first sentence you wrote to me, so forgive me if I have trouble believing you about not getting personal.

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            7 days ago

            OK let’s talk about the Iran contra issue.

            I watched the hearings on CSPAN EVERY SINGLE DAY!


            So. Ollie North overcharged the Iranians for weapons and used the proceeds to fund the Contras. What exactly is your problem with that? Check one box only please.

            1. He overcharged the Iranians for arms.

            2. He used the proceeds to stave off a legitimately evil, hateful, genocidal regime.

            One box only please!

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            7 days ago

            Well you insulted my hero. Not trump! I would consider trump and Reagan as 2 poles on the opposite sides of a sphere. Think north and south pole. Trump is actually more like a virus that caused a genetic mutation. No joke.

            1. I’ve been the employer that hired people to do their job. Trust me, it’s not just taking money in, and laughing all the way to the bank. Every dollar that i saved is another dollar I can sink into the company or pay higher wages. “OH wait, company xyz offered you 10% more? I can match that” . I need a buffer. I was not a “capitalist class” . How many complainers have actually run a business that employed people, and had to meet payroll , and had to meet payroll taxes and keep their employees and customers happy?

            2. I was there when HIV became an issue. We had no idea what caused it, how it spread, or what to do about it. It took some time. I was there!

            3. No Reagan didn’t “laugh” when gay people died. - give me 1 unbiased, verifiable link to substantiate that claim.

            4. I’m very sorry but we are 39 trillion dollars in the hole, as laudable as providing state hospitals may have been, we can not afford it at this time. Find a better way. So, what, we’d be like 44 trillion in debt. Is that the inheritance you want to leave your kids?

            As a business owner I’ve had to balance budgets for decades. I would’ve loved to buy that greatest, tech wizzbang thing; it would save/ make so much money. Sorry. Just cant afford it. Like it or not, the BBB allows companies to fully depreciate an asset in the 1st year (i had to wait decades) freeing up more cash to pay higher wages.

            I hate DJT. He is everything Reagan was not.

            I WON’T ALLOW ANYONE TO SULLY THE NAME OF REAGAN BY ASSOCIATING IT WITH TRUMP TO TRY TO FURTHER THEIR POLITICAL AGENDA! IT IS DISINGENUOUS TO SAY THE LEAST.

            DJT and the maga agenda must be hamstriged, hogtied, disabled, overridden, axed, rendered useless, shutdown, crippled, discombobulated, to say the least.

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              7 days ago

              You need to take criticism of your favorite politicians less personally. It’s a bad look. I’m not arguing with a cultist who is incapable of seeing reason. I hope you have a good weekend and have a chance to relax and reflect.

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                7 days ago

                Now if you meant ad homenim then that you would mean you insulted me because you can’t carry out a logical conversation/ argument.

                If you meant ad hoc that would mean you’re just piling bullshit, because you can’t have a logical conversation.

                You are thoroughly confusing me! Did i insult you because I couldn’t hold a logical conversation, or did you insult me? Did I pile on extraneous bullshit or was that you?

                Honestly, your ad homenim, ad hoc, non sequitur nonsense has me thoroughly confused.

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                7 days ago

                Your cult remark was an ad homenim remark (you might want to go look that up to refresh your memory) .

                Just sayin.

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                7 days ago

                Never took it personally.

                But some “less enlightened people” seem to relish in besmirching Reagan’s name with Trump’s.

                Present company excluded, I’m sure, of course!

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              7 days ago

              I’m sorry. My bad.

              I forgot to mention unemployment insurance and workman’s compensation insurance costs.