You misunderstood my comment.
The argument (mostly coming from US drivers) is that it’s unsafe to go the speed limit, because everyone else goes faster than the limit and will then pass you dangerously.
So the safe thing to do would be to also go faster than the speed limit.
That’s fair, I haven’t ever driven in Sweden, but I was thinking more in terms of all European countries because Sweden is making this case to the rest of Europe. I’ve driven in Germany for more than five years and it is the case here.
Germany is obviously a special case regarding the unlimited sections of the autobahn, but even on speed limited roads, there are sometimes large knots of traffic that travel faster than the limit over roads with one or two lanes. A driver encountering them would make conditions more dangerous if they followed the speed limit exactly instead of adjusting to traffic.
In Spain you often have 20km/h limits, which seemingly no one really cares about
In Italy the limits at highway constructions are a complete joke
Going that slow suddenly would actually produce dangerous situations - but mostly, because nobody gives a shit and just drives 110/130 in the 40-60km/h construction zones anyway
So, it’s not just Germany at least, is what I want to say
I do drive in Germany a lot, and I stick to the speed limit out of principle.
(GPS speed, not what the speedometer shows)
It’s a lot more relaxing not to worry about speed cameras at all.
And in my experience, it’s not an issue at all. Certainly not less safe.
There are some assholes who will tailgate and pass dangerously, but they also do that when I’m going 10 over.
The entire argument feels like a “want a cigarette?” because if you’re smoking yourself you won’t be bothered by other people’s second hand smoke… Drive the speed limit when there is one, it is the only reasonable thing to do. People annoyed by that have a problem, not you.
Thats part of why we have speed limits. Because it also accpunts for “safe stopping distance” because the people settings the limits know "a car going X speed can stop in Y distance which is likely enough for many factors, including wildlife.
Especially if its a robot car that, if it wasn’t a shitty Tesla, and was using LIDAR style systems, would see that animal coming from a mile away and slow down if it anticipated an encroachment on the road.
Also because, its not driving drowzy, or distracted.
That’s objectively not true. You can end up in accidents easily if wildlife gets in the way, and that can happen in a split second.
We don’t just have other drivers to account for on the roads.
You misunderstood my comment.
The argument (mostly coming from US drivers) is that it’s unsafe to go the speed limit, because everyone else goes faster than the limit and will then pass you dangerously.
So the safe thing to do would be to also go faster than the speed limit.
In Sweden, that’s just not the case.
Ah, I understand. Thank you for the clarification.
That’s fair, I haven’t ever driven in Sweden, but I was thinking more in terms of all European countries because Sweden is making this case to the rest of Europe. I’ve driven in Germany for more than five years and it is the case here.
Germany is obviously a special case regarding the unlimited sections of the autobahn, but even on speed limited roads, there are sometimes large knots of traffic that travel faster than the limit over roads with one or two lanes. A driver encountering them would make conditions more dangerous if they followed the speed limit exactly instead of adjusting to traffic.
In Spain you often have 20km/h limits, which seemingly no one really cares about
In Italy the limits at highway constructions are a complete joke
Going that slow suddenly would actually produce dangerous situations - but mostly, because nobody gives a shit and just drives 110/130 in the 40-60km/h construction zones anyway
So, it’s not just Germany at least, is what I want to say
I do drive in Germany a lot, and I stick to the speed limit out of principle.
(GPS speed, not what the speedometer shows)
It’s a lot more relaxing not to worry about speed cameras at all.
And in my experience, it’s not an issue at all. Certainly not less safe.
There are some assholes who will tailgate and pass dangerously, but they also do that when I’m going 10 over.
You are correct.
The entire argument feels like a “want a cigarette?” because if you’re smoking yourself you won’t be bothered by other people’s second hand smoke… Drive the speed limit when there is one, it is the only reasonable thing to do. People annoyed by that have a problem, not you.
Thats part of why we have speed limits. Because it also accpunts for “safe stopping distance” because the people settings the limits know "a car going X speed can stop in Y distance which is likely enough for many factors, including wildlife.
Especially if its a robot car that, if it wasn’t a shitty Tesla, and was using LIDAR style systems, would see that animal coming from a mile away and slow down if it anticipated an encroachment on the road.
Also because, its not driving drowzy, or distracted.