How should that work?
My GrapheneOS Android doesn’t look any different than any other Android - and they’d need to look at my screen while walking by or something.

They can’t even see the exact Android version without trying to access it - or having me show them explicitly my “About phone” screen or something

I really don’t see how that should work in practice

If they pick me out and want to scan my phone, then it could be used against me, that they can’t access my data.
But hey, that’s what GrapheneOS is here for, to don’t allow anyone access to my data, who shouldn’t have access

So, in practice this is not really relevant or do I misunderstand something?

Currently GrapheneOS is only supporting Pixel phones - and not sure about the oldest ones, that get supported

But here is their FAQ with the current list of supported devices:
https://grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devices

Yep, “they” can just pull out a comment of context and put you into some kind of group

As you said, stupid it is

I’m using my banking apps (business and private) without issues

It’s not about GrapheneOS adding those apps, it’s about the bank allowing their apps to run on that Android device/version.
(Or someone correct me here, but that also makes more sense to me, than a whitelist on GrapheneOS side)

Ah, cool, didn’t know about that
Thank you very much! :⁠-⁠)

You don’t know, in what list you maybe already show up
Just because police hasn’t knocked on your door, doesn’t mean, that in case all that shit will be held up against you

Who knows, who is already monitored, because just of a drunken or honest comment, that icks someone the wrong way

Thanks for that input!
Just came back from a business trip in Spain.

Maybe I missed it in the article, but do you know, how they do it?
I guess on the phone network level, my phone isn’t shouting “GrapheneOS here!!”.
So how do they profile me?
Only after they already control me somehow or…?

Still, this is getting more and more Orwellian

Hopefully my Jolla will be to exotic in the first period, but on the long term, this all is a really worrying development with the aim of mass surveillance

How can they control that I’m accessing my own Wireguard or company VPN?
Or does this only affect commercial (or free) VPN services one could use?

The technical illiteracy of politicians is still astounding to me

Edit: and how would they control TOR?
I could potentially use a TOR to VPN chain. Albeit slow, it would still work.
Registering with ID for TOR would be the most annoying amusing thing I’ve heard in a long time…
(Don’t know why autocorrect didn’t like the word ‘amusing’. Had to finally type it out. Seems not much fun stuff happening in my life ;⁠-⁠))

At least in Europe, there is often a slot in which you need to put in the key card the hotel provided (or often any card, because it’s just a switch and doesn’t check the card), so you don’t waste energy, while you’re not in the room
Said slot for the card is just at the wall after you open the door. So you usually have power, before you’re even really inside, because you just reach in and out the card in place.
It’s a bit annoying, but that’s pretty much it.

As the room should be empty, when there is no card in the slot, I’m not sure how that makes it worse for shy people though o⁠:⁠-⁠)

Needing to install an app and trusting my phone to be charged and functioning, when I want to enter my room, seems much more stressful for me ;⁠-⁠)

I somehow also get a lower resolution Google maps, when using Google Auto.
That was the reason I don’t really use it.

For music and stuff, I just use Bluetooth

But good luck having Google add something as NewPipe to be allowed with Android Auto ;⁠-⁠)

I have never used those - didn’t even know those exist

Usually I need the key card anyway to active the power in the room… Which sucks

So, can’t say anything about that, but it’s just usual Android, so I don’t see much issues here.
Banking apps are usually just more strict with which system they support, so that was my primary worry

Edit: but as I don’t really know about those hotel keys apps, does this mean I have to install an app per hotel (chain), which probably tries to grab some personal data again, or is this just some key, I can use in some FOSS app?

I’m running GrapheneOS since about 2 years now and I’m more than happy.
Didn’t had any real issues with it.
Art the start Android Auto didn’t work, but it does now - although I don’t really use it.

I have Google play service stuff installed, but sandboxed.
And my banking apps work just fine.

Friend of mine made the switch a few months ago and haven’t heard of any complaints either.

Can highly recommend it :⁠-⁠)

GrapheneOS is Android and declines to introduce that

Not sure when you’ll be labelled a terrorist by using a privacy respecting OS though…

It’s not just oil that passes the strait

Well, if a wife can’t appreciate, that I’m sharing something very special, I’ve brought with me, than she’s probably not for me…

Wankers is quite harsh
Let them feel sexy on their bike, if they want to

But you forget, that we’re living in forest cities with exploding trees!

That this idiot even got a single vote is beyond me…but well, who am I to talk with Kickl promoting the same kind of xenophobia.
But I’m getting a bit off topic, although all those conversatives world wide seem to love to be stuck in their cars in traffic jams…