Holy crap. I’d say not to buy AMD if you value your security (i have an AMD CPU and the Deck too). You already know the next vulnerability they’re going to be the last ones to find out. In the news, probably.
It’s just that Intel NUC and a bunch of select laptops needed beefy (well, beefier than Intel HD at least) onboard GPU that Intel was unable to produce at the time, soooo, this… thing was born.
It’s not. RISC-V and ARM exist. You can buy laptops based on either of these architectures for a very reasonable price, compared to Intel and AMD’s x86 offerings.
Of course, that means no AAA gaming, for the most part at least. But then again, who even plays AAA games these days?
ARM gaming isn’t. Let alone RISC-V gaming. Not AAA at least. You can play pretty much all older and lighter games on anything starting from Snapdragon 8 Gen 2. Which is perfectly fine for me personally. However, if you want to play more demanding titles, ARM isn’t gonna cut it at the moment.
Err many people?
Well, many people smoke too. Could not care less about it.
RISC-V and ARM exist. You can buy laptops based on either of these architectures for a very reasonable price, compared to Intel and AMD’s x86 offerings.
Have fun dealing with that Device Tree bullshit because hardware autodetection is so 1998.
It’s all a matter of [relatively minor] investment into R&D. Would you prefer being a subject of Intel and AMD’s perpetual x86 duopoly forever?
They can set whatever prices they like, because nobody else is allowed to touch their little instruction set. With the tiny exception of a Chinese company whose best CPU is the equivalent of an 8th gen i5.
You’ll pay whatever they demand or you won’t have a PC. Yeah, this is so much fun compared to ‘dealing with ARM bullshit’.
This entire architecture has lived way past its time. Intel and AMD being utter garbage corporations did not help in the least.
Let it die along with those two dumpster fires, and move on.
Consumer ARM hardware mostly needs customized images for each board. Plus, depending on your CPU manufacturer you’ll be stuck on an ancient kernel version to get full functionality.
(Serious) is there really a reasonably priced arm laptop? Which one? I only see apple silicon and some over 2k dollars laptops. Does it have good battery life and performance?
It was physics and battery sizes to blame for why we have drifted from the 5 GHz x86 CPU to the 32 core x86 CPU. I never thought the rush to ARM/RISC-V would be because Intel and AMD are run by morons.
The Steam Deck does run Linux right? Generally that means the used drivers are not written by AMD and also do not have an auto-updater from AMD. The deck is supposed to update through it’s OS’es package manager and supposedly has the Mesa and Linux Foundation drivers in use.
Holy crap. I’d say not to buy AMD if you value your security (i have an AMD CPU and the Deck too). You already know the next vulnerability they’re going to be the last ones to find out. In the news, probably.
Ok, so the alternative is buying Intel/Nvidia. Surely they’ve never done anything problematic, so this is a good plan.
No no no. You buy half an intel chip, and half of an AMD chip. Then mush them together!
ooooooh boy do I have a surprise for you! ungodly amalgation of an Intel CPU with a mobile AMD GPU
(first time posting a picture here ever so there’s a 99% chance I’m gonna screw this up)
Oh man… That is wild. How is that a thing?
It’s just that Intel NUC and a bunch of select laptops needed beefy (well, beefier than Intel HD at least) onboard GPU that Intel was unable to produce at the time, soooo, this… thing was born.
Under Linux, AMD GPU is the only sane solution tho, due to open source drivers. And Intel CPUs have history of cookin hard.
It’s not. RISC-V and ARM exist. You can buy laptops based on either of these architectures for a very reasonable price, compared to Intel and AMD’s x86 offerings.
Of course, that means no AAA gaming, for the most part at least. But then again, who even plays AAA games these days?
Gaming industry is way bigger than movie industry. Almost everyone plays games.
Steam alone has like 40 million concurrent players right now.
Most money goes into mobile money traps, though.
Err many people? And Linux gaming is on the rise too.
Linux gaming is perfectly fine.
ARM gaming isn’t. Let alone RISC-V gaming. Not AAA at least. You can play pretty much all older and lighter games on anything starting from Snapdragon 8 Gen 2. Which is perfectly fine for me personally. However, if you want to play more demanding titles, ARM isn’t gonna cut it at the moment.
Well, many people smoke too. Could not care less about it.
Have fun dealing with that Device Tree bullshit because hardware autodetection is so 1998.
It’s all a matter of [relatively minor] investment into R&D. Would you prefer being a subject of Intel and AMD’s perpetual x86 duopoly forever?
They can set whatever prices they like, because nobody else is allowed to touch their little instruction set. With the tiny exception of a Chinese company whose best CPU is the equivalent of an 8th gen i5.
You’ll pay whatever they demand or you won’t have a PC. Yeah, this is so much fun compared to ‘dealing with ARM bullshit’.
This entire architecture has lived way past its time. Intel and AMD being utter garbage corporations did not help in the least.
Let it die along with those two dumpster fires, and move on.
those are not consumer friendly
As opposed to Intel, AMD, and Nvidia being super consumer friendly?
Consumer ARM hardware mostly needs customized images for each board. Plus, depending on your CPU manufacturer you’ll be stuck on an ancient kernel version to get full functionality.
And the performance/watt is not that exceptional.
(Serious) is there really a reasonably priced arm laptop? Which one? I only see apple silicon and some over 2k dollars laptops. Does it have good battery life and performance?
AMD now with their security stuff and Intel with the crashing and quick degradation stuff a while ago. Sigh.
It was physics and battery sizes to blame for why we have drifted from the 5 GHz x86 CPU to the 32 core x86 CPU. I never thought the rush to ARM/RISC-V would be because Intel and AMD are run by morons.
The Steam Deck does run Linux right? Generally that means the used drivers are not written by AMD and also do not have an auto-updater from AMD. The deck is supposed to update through it’s OS’es package manager and supposedly has the Mesa and Linux Foundation drivers in use.
AMD does contribute to MESA and kernel driver. It’s all open source, but they do lot of heavy lifting regardless