I mean Democrats disgust me too, but not more than child rapists…
Damn…indeed.
A hardcore maga coworker told me that “if” it’s proven that Trump “was” in the Epstein files he will still vote for him because I’m his own words “I would rather vote for a pedophile than an honest democrat.”
I always point to the Alabama Senate election between Roy Moore and Doug Jones. Roy Moore, known pedophile, vs. normal Democrat. Far too many conservatives went on record saying “better than a Democrat”.
They are so anti-pedophile until suddenly they’re not. What a disgusting thing to change your opinion on, person to person.
What a disgusting thing to change your opinion on, person to person.
That’s the thing, they never changed their opinion, they just lied
What!? Absolutely vile and disgusting. “I rather vote for a p*** than an honest democrat.” Are we in hell? Are we in hell? I am gonna assume most magas are p****. Every single one of them.
And they wonder why their kids never visit anymore 🙄
Sad thing is he has 2 sons and they are also hardcore maga too. His oldest son has a toddler and he’s said he’s gonna raise his the right way in that to be conservative.
Ask him what specific conservative policies he supports. Don’t even push back at first, just make him try and articulate what principles he even believes in that aren’t in opposition to something. Like ask “if all the liberals vanished in an instant, what do you and your side believe in and want?”
So many of these people are so wrapped up in fighting boogymen they just truly haven’t even realized how hollow the cart they’ve attached their horse to is
Making conservatives defend their own policies is like asking my dog to make dinner.
I have already and he just repeats whatever he last heard on Fox News.
It’s dangerous to reason with those who are not liberated - Dietrich Bonhoeffer
He only had two kids? Must hate America. I jest…
Yea the thing that really pisses me off about him is like most boomer or boomer adjacent people is he is extremely privileged. His dad was a founding member of Boeing after WW2 and his dad had a hand in establishing Lockheed Martin. When his dad passed he got a huge inheritance like millions and he still complains about lazy millennials and Gen Z not buying or able to afford homes and groceries.
They’re so proud to lick boots
either that or its a low information i know one in my family, they either become defensive say “i dont care” or i dont know his policies, but still support him.
Do these people mean it as democracy per se or just the democratic party? Just trying to understand your country’s stage of fascism.
No they pearl clutch and love America and the democracy it has. But they have been taught that Democrats/Liberals are horrible, disgusting people. It’s a knee jerk reaction at this point. My brother, who is hardcore maga, said “no I don’t think they are talking about you. You aren’t a ‘liberal’”. Like he was saving me from a terrible slur. And I had to nicely tell him that I am, in fact, liberal.
It kind of feels like the hatred against “the gays” in the 90s. They need someone to hate and right now it’s the Democrats and liberals, and I guess everyone else the media has told them to hate (lgbtq, trans, etc).
They need to understand what you get when you remove 1 party from a 2 party system.
It’s a 1 party system.
No matter what side of it, it supports the genocider state, multinationals, bombing brown people and terrorizing the rest of the world.Lacht auf Ostdeutsch.
Dude I was born in a 1 party dictatorship and my grandparents in another. You are an idiot.
oh you’re a germ rat going that went from 1 nazi country to another, got it
Lol why are you insulting me now?
And I never lived in a fascist dictatorship, my grandparents did. What countries are not Nazi countries for you?
These people aren’t sophisticated enough to know that small-d democrats are a thing
Ackchyually it’s not a democracy, it’s a constitutional republic, and those are words I read off a screen. They mean that my political team is better than yours and that owning land should give my political team more voting rights than yours.
Owning land? What? Go vote, moron
They don’t even know the rules, they just make up or move be flag pole as needed…
both sides of your pedo-uniparty are sick cultists. the same blind fanaticism where they choose not to see the evil of their own side in the face of obviousness.
this ‘comic’ is a great example.
Whatever the other side does or says is bad.
If they said the sun comes up in the east they would deny it.Lol. Lmao, even.
“I’m okay with fucking kids. I’m okay with law enforcement murdering citizens in the streets. I’m okay with taking rights away from trans people. I’m okay with bombing children on the other side of the world”
“I want everyone to have affordable healthcare, education, and to be free to live their life”
BuT bOtH sIdEs ArE tHe SaMe
I’m okay with law enforcement murdering citizens in the streets
That’s literally the only difference.
And ‘citizens’, AKA yourselves is all you selfish cultists care about.
Genocide Joe, besides actively aiding in genocide also put plenty kids in jail and many non citizens died under his regime while in ICE custody.
He deported a lot more than Trump too.
Of course blue magats didn’t care about any of that until they started bothering YOU and killed 2 white americans.
You know their names and made a big fuss about it, the Mexicans, Vietnamese,etc… murdered before didn’t matter much.taking rights away from trans, affordable healthcare, education…
You literally did the meme
Sure Trump is worse for americunts , to the rest of the world continuously suffering from your warmongering and imperialism it makes no difference.
On the contrary, I hope he does his worst, makes you suffer and runs your shithole into the ground.
You fully deserve it.You fully deserve it.
Considering I’m not even American, what exactly do I deserve from this?
The mad red hatters are also child molesters
“He just like me fr”
“He just speaks the truth”
The joke is that they’re all child molesters.
Weren’t people wearing bandages on their ear and diapers at one time to be like trump? I guess they might do other things.
Truth is stranger than fiction
they think its a form of mockery against the accusers, or the ones making fun of them, they are just digging themselves a larger whole of a joke they are.
It’s not a joke, as far as I’m concerned. As far as I’m concerned, they should ALL kill themselves, go do something useful, like fertilize the ground.
This has nothing to do with the current topic in the thread. But " You disgust me." Reminds me of a song by Vana and thought I’d share a banger 😏.
My visceral issue with that comic series is that either: 1) the faces are weirdly deformed, with their mouths where their noses should be, or 2) they have little Disney button noses, and no actual mouths.
Haha, much humanier.
Those dots you think are eyes? Nostrils…
All the “leftists” really outting themselves here dam.
Right? How dare we be against Child Sexual Exploitation. Fuck us I guess.
No, they saying “fuck kids” and rubbing something in glee.
“Fuck them kids” doesn’t apply just to the decline of education, the banning of books, and the removal of childhood rights.
This is divisive rhetoric.
Remember our shared enemy is the ruling class.
Both political parties serve the ruling class.
Do NOT let them divide US.
Apes together strong.
We’re already divided, and this comic is just making fun of those who put partisanship above all else so I don’t see it as especially divisive. Moreover, there’s no reason to seek any sort of “common cause” with the right, because they lick the boots of the ruling class and create division by attacking minority groups. Trying to find common ground with reactionary elements of the working class just dilutes the message and alienates their victims.
This comic is intentionally left vague to encourage readers to project their preferred meaning, then to argue about it in the comments, as you are doing here. It is designed specifically to make the working class fight amongst themselves.
Edit: There’s no way these replies are real, this is 100% cult behavior
It’s only vague if you openly support child rape.
This comic is not vague at all, literally everything is labeled
Really cause only under one political party my life as a trans person wasn’t being put in danger.
The success of modern fascism has the same root cause as the success of fascism in the 20th century: liberal capitalism. Yes, Democrats are definitely better, and I certainly wouldn’t pretend the outcome of an election wouldn’t matter, especially for trans homies, but Democrat policies directly create the economic frustration that the MAGA fascists feed on.
It’s not division to say we shouldn’t allow pedophiles to rule us. Saying that is divisive rather than accepting the unbelievable events that are here is more divisive than a comic.
This comic is INTENTIONALLY VAGUE. Read the comments and you will discover people arguing whatever they project onto it.
It is vague intentionally because the purpose of propaganda like this to cause division and arguments among the working class. For example, I pointed that out, and you came to argue for your preferred interpretation.
Do you seriously think that I’m saying we should ally with pedophiles? The pedophiles ARE the ruling class. They’re the Epstein class.
Yes. That is exactly what you said. Thank you for catching up.
It’s not vague at all. How do you perceive this as vague?
This comic is INTENTIONALLY VAGUE
MAGA is more disgusted by democrats than child rapists. I’m not sure what’s vague about it.
It’s like saying a sign on a door says PUSH and you think that’s a vague description.
bOtH sIdEs BaD is a tool used to sanewash the right
“There is only one party in the United States, the Property Party … and it has two right wings: Republican and Democrat. Republicans are a bit stupider, more rigid, more doctrinaire in their laissez-faire capitalism than the Democrats, who are cuter, prettier, a bit more corrupt — until recently … and more willing than the Republicans to make small adjustments when the poor, the black, the anti-imperialists get out of hand. But, essentially, there is no difference between the two parties.”
― Gore Vidal
That’s all you have. Still 2 options. Work with it instead of excluding your only chance
-Me
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DWR6QS8Dqxy/ “proud to support shitrael”
fuck that entire shithole.blue magats can fuck off and die, shithole country of barbarians.
Both sides, Republicans and Democrats, ARE THE RIGHT. Both are pro war. Both are pro billionaire. Both are pro Israel. Both are pro genocide. Leftists have been screaming for years about the rise of fascism and were ignored for years. Now we have been proven right, again and again, and now are telling you, the democrats are 100% compromised, there is no saving them, and both parties must be dissolved. Now please, stop dividing the working class, if you want justice for the Epstein files, if you want this country to stop waging imperialist wars of aggression, if you want to stop fascism, we need to STAND TOGETHER FIRMLY against the ruling class.
I ain’t standing with Nazis, dawg. You can both sides all you want, but one side is fucking Nazis.
Yes, THE RULING CLASS, they’re the fucking nazis. Wake the fuck up, the Democrats are ALSO nazis.
One hand washes the other. They are different hands but they work together to sanewash each other. Biden sat on terrabytes of evidence but didn’t go after the pedos because it implicates Israel. Boths sides are bad, but in appreciaticely different ways
Biden sitting on the pedo files is a symptom of Dems caring more about decorum than they do results. It’s part of why they keep getting obliterated by Trump.
Decorum is what they say publicly but let’s be real, the results the Dems care about is campaign funding. They don’t stand up to AIPAC or their extralegal operations because they’re afraid of their money.
Not investigating rapists and insurrectionists is decorum?
It is for any democrat who makes it into significant power, yes. Gotta work within that system for slow gradual improvements that can be easily undone.
Biden didn’t sit on the pedo files. It’s the DOJ. Not the president.
Oh please. He appointed Merrick Garland to head the DOJ. “Investigate pedophiles” could have easily been one of the requirements for him to nominate
Still doesn’t change who is in charge of the mechanism.
Yes, the President. The Attorney General serves at the pleasure of the President. If they aren’t doing the thing you appointed them for, then you appoint a new one.
Lmao tell that to the current administration. It goes back to what I was just saying, Trump uses his DOJ as a tool in a way Biden never did. Not that Trump actually got the results he wanted, but that’s beside the point.
Just because our current administration tells lies doesn’t mean you need to believe them or expect better. You’re being part of the problem by not understanding how the mechanism of our system works.
Trump has continued to break the law in every way possible and your defense is “why didn’t other presidents break the law?”
Gee. Lemme fuckin think…
So your argument is “why didn’t Biden become a dictator first”?
Not sure how you got that other than arguing in bad faith. Democrats are paralyzed into inaction as Republicans fling shit at the wall until something sticks. This paralysis is why a person like Biden would sit on those files for four years, fearing he would appear partisan if he pushed for their release.
Not american.
But while both parties are corrupt you can choose to use the better of the worse.
Like yeah eating bland dough sold as a steak is bad, but eating literal shit sold as a steak is worse. Both are bad, but one is not like the other.
The trick is, it’s not just that they are shit labeled as food. It’s that most Americans have never seen the steak they pretend to be, so they look at anyone else as crazy when they are told what they’re eating isn’t filet mignon and no one else wants it. They have no frame of reference to even understand what food is in that metaphor.
US has like 5 parties, but population is too stupid to read the ballots and use the fucking internet to do the research instead of just eating propaganda fed to them by all mainstream media bought by the biggest 2.
No, I’m sorry, but the Democrats supported and enabled a genocide. We are fucking done with the lies of “harm reduction” which are promised all the while the democrats race to the right. Wake the fuck up, and realize YOU ARE WORKING CLASS. THEY ARE RULING CLASS. Stop doing their propaganda for them.
Wake the fuck up, and realize YOU ARE WORKING CLASS. THEY ARE RULING CLASS. Stop doing their propaganda for them.
Yep.
This thread is full of folks willing to bet that the spineless overlords will change enough to save them from the openly authoritarian overlords.
You’re not being realistic. There is no “working class vs ruling class” when a portion of the working class doesn’t see the rest as human. It’s not just that we sane Americans are unwilling to side with Nazis to take down billionaires (though certainly that is true); it’s also that someone who calls me a removed is never going to stand and fight next to my black ass. The only way you get the entire working class to engage is if they are willing to stand with us, and that’s not gonna happen by us welcoming Nazis into the fold, it’ll happen when they, ya know, stop being Nazis. Even if what you’re saying is possible, you’re preaching to the wrong side.
I am not urging you to side with nazis. I am urging you to recognize that the Democrats themselves are ALSO nazis. They will side with fascists, every time.
where have you been THE EU /usa have been supporting israel for decades, only because of '23, with t the elections flaring up in 2024 is when people noticed, you are actually falling for the propaganda yourself, if you only noticed that gaza/israel conflict suddenly appeared because biden dint do anything
I’ve been fighting against zionism for literally decades.
Instructions unclear, formed a new political party whose platform is inclusive of pedos.
Both the republicans and democrats have plenty of billionaire pedo connections. The working class do not. This is another class issue - working class kids being abused by wealthy ruling class pedos.
Watching Ivanka Trump disassociate when she introduced her child hood room makes me think the rich kids don’t exactly escape unscathed. But yeah, they target kids with the promise of changing their circumstances. They exploit the very weaknesses they breed in society.
If there’s a realistic choice beyond “Corporate Whores” and “Corporate Whores who also want to institute Christian Sharia law in the US”, and you still support the whores, then yes, I will be right there front and center to call those people scumbags all day long.
However, everyone knows that is not the case in US politics within the electoral mechanisms we’re currently operating under. Through that lens, being the person that knowingly votes for some niche candidate that they know isn’t going to win any election against those two, knowing full well that by doing that you’re making it that much easier for the Christofascists to scrape out a win and continue pushing this morality horseshit on the people…no, you don’t get a pass. Not anymore.
The cost of a dozen eggs is of no fucking consequence when LGBTQ+ society is under assault. The price of a gallon of gas pales in comparison to the fact that ICE is out there literally wiping their ass with the constitution every day and the courts have no recourse to stop them. The fact that your property taxes may be a point or two higher or lower means precisely dick when you’re watching a war be instigated and fought that nobody wants solely to distract the people from the fact that our president belongs on a sex offender registry so his movements can be monitored for the rest of his disgusting life.
I haven’t considered myself a supporter of the Democratic party since they sidelined Bernie, but if my choice is them, or someone that thinks the things I listed above are just fuckin great, you’re goddamn right Im going to pick them. Because at least with them we can stop the fucking bleeding. With the other guys, we’re just counting down until someone decides to trigger a nuke and once that happens elections as a concept are going to seem quaint let alone all the other luxuries we enjoy like running water or a functioning power grid.
Through that lens, being the person that knowingly votes for some niche candidate that they know isn’t going to win any election against those two, knowing full well that by doing that you’re making it that much easier for the Christofascists to scrape out a win and continue pushing this morality horseshit on the people…no, you don’t get a pass. Not anymore.
So when do we hold the democrats accountable for being openly detestable, if not when the they’ve handed the whole country over?
Our only chance at this not getting worse is a likeable candidate. We know democrats are committed to never running one.
What’s the answer here?
Yes, the Democratic party running a true populist is the answer sure. We all know that’s not going to happen.
The US Democratic plans to continue to eek out loses from the jaws of inevitable victory, and enjoy ongoing campaign funding and unaccountability, as their reward.
This, what we have today, is literally their whole platform. They helped plan this.
When do we hold them accountable for that? Is is still too soon?
So when do we hold the democrats accountable
When weve got the Christofascists in jail where they fuckin belong.
If someone comes at me with a gun while someone else is trying to set my house on fire, im going to focus on the dude with the gun, then deal with the fire. Theyre both a threat, but one is more of a threat than the other.
What you guys are basically wanting to do, to continue the metaphor, is go running around trying to find the hose while youre being shot at. And you know, thats fine, you do you, player. But dont act like its not completely natural and justifiable if most people, like me, would put their energy into stopping the bullets before giving even half a shit about the fire. The fire will have to be dealt with once the bullets stop. The fire will be dealt with, but there are bigger threats right now.
Just stop defending the Democrats. They’re more than willing to throw trans people under the bus, they supported, enabled and armed a genocide, they support wars, they support terrorism. You can vote for whoever the fuck you want, I don’t care, but you’ll never get a better world if you “vote blue no matter who”, you’ll get fascism.
Im not defending anyone. You notice I literally called them Corporate Whores, right?
What Im saying is people need to use their brain and think strategically about the situation and not be all Pollyanna about it. I’m sure 80% of the people that voted for Kamala didn’t give a fuck about Kamala, I know I didn’t, but the FACT is, every person in a purple state that voted third party likely contributed in some way to where we are now.
You’re on a bus with 100 people and they take a vote for lunch. 40 people want Tacos, 40 want Pizza. The other 20 of people all want something different from everyone else…a few want sandwiches, this guy over here wants Thai food, those two old ladies want to go to a steak house. Are any of those people going to get what they want? No, obviously. It is a mathematical certainty that they will not.
But those 20 people, knowing they’re not going to get what the want, can still at least take steps to not get what they absolutely don’t want. They may not want either the tacos or the pizza, but they probably have a preference between those two. They can at least cast a vote for the meal they can live with, even if it’'s not their favorite. At least they can eat something, and won’t be sitting on a bus fucking starving for the next 6 hours until they stop for dinner.
As you said, people can vote for whoever they want. But here’s what you can’t do…you can’t dig your fucking heels in, refuse to compromise, and then whine and complain afterwards when the bus is pulling into Taco Bell and not Pizza Hut if you fucking hate tacos. You could have cast a vote for Pizza, it might have won, and you could have at least had that and not Taco Bell. It might not have, of course, but at least that was a possibility. The Thai never ever was. No matter how much you wished it were so. No matter how much you cry and complain.
This is like, functional adult sort of stuff. People have to compromise every single day, that’s life.
There always has been - 3rd and 4th parties.
“BuT tHeY hAvE nO aGeNdA” - fucking good. No agenda is better than perpetuating a century-long, systemic corruption by flipping the same rotten coin. 3rd party that’s unaffiliated with the 2 shitheads has 4 years to come up and execute a plan while the rotten 2 seeth and stare. House and congress need an upheaval and and few turnovers as well.
should also promote the third party instead of just bashing both sides of the mas party
Same difference.
You are free to criticize democrats, but when you imply they are as bad as child rapists people are going to roll their eyes
It’s crazy how many people love to blot the Clintons (and Larry Summers and the Cuomos and the rest) out of their brains the moment it’s convenient.
Would you prefer this?:
Three pedophiles walk into a comic.
Where’s the mirror, or a fourth person with real integrity? Seriously, why not all three? I see not-one Left-of-Center, non-child-rapist-enabler portrayed here…
Oh wait, a shit-lib made this, didn’t they.
Boy you triggered.
Found the pedo
also a tankie lol.
Unlike many here, I stay off-campus because I stay armed, not because I’m otherwise legally prohibited. Talk to me when you’ve actually punched a Nazi, not just gathered in a large group far-away from the seats of power to hope-and-pray mean words at them.
Oh my, don’t tread on this snake, he scaaary. So how far have you gotten on your “make the world a better place”-project? Do tell.
“You dare make a mockery of me? I’ll have you know that I voted for a paedophile rapist twice in a row.”
You stay armed because you’re a pussy. You’re the rittenhouse type of coward: -Arrive at a destination armed -Force a confrontation because you don’t like what they are doing. -Shoot them -Claim self defense -Cry like a bitch in front of the entire world
Pathetic
Must be how I made it back from Iraq without killing anyone. I guess I could always see the Lemmy light, and learn to gather 5 upvotes for making up shit about people I’ve never met.
Risking your life for a pedophile isn’t the flex you think it is. None of you lemmings that signed up (to attack poor people that never did anything to you) did it to “Defend” anything. Most of you idiots sign up to escape poverty. Poverty your ruling class is responsible for you being in, in the first place. Your military you so proudly associate with bombed a school and killed 160 kids, and you will strap on your boots and go kill some more because a pedophile told you to. And cowards just do as they’re told.
Your entire country is built around exploitation of others, and you signed up to actively participate in enforcing future exploitation.
Fuck you for your service.
PS: it’s weird you don’t enter an educational institution because you are potentially “prohibited” but a school shooter will ignore that prohibition and there will be no one there to stop him. And I wouldn’t count on the uvalde police department to take action as they proved they are scared little piggies who hid in hallways while kids were being actively murdered, “for officer safety” Turns out your service couldn’t even save some kids from your very own people.
I’m no fan of our military myself, but this bit here:
it’s weird you don’t enter an educational institution because you are potentially “prohibited” but a school shooter will ignore that prohibition and there will be no one there to stop him.
Not weird at all actually, see the commenter doesn’t want to be arrested and sent to prison just for having a tool for protection on their belt, but the school shooter isn’t concerned with that because they’re about to murder people (and then themselves most often), which is a bigger crime and an avoidance of that jail sentence, so they don’t particularly care that a gun is illegal to have at a school.
And I wouldn’t count on the uvalde police department to take action as they proved they are scared little piggies who hid in hallways while kids were being actively murdered, “for officer safety” Turns out your service couldn’t even save some kids from your very own people.
True, but if you bring a gun into a school for protection “because the cops won’t” (not arguing the premise) and you get caught, you’re still going to federal prison for a long time. It’s still a federal felony even though the cops suck. That matters to most people who aren’t already planning to break other laws like “child murder.”
Serving 20 years ago is nothing like “defending a pedophile”, but you’re otherwise correct that I got mine and have a very mercenary outlook on military service. Way to miss my real point though: I’m trained, not just cos-playing. More than that, I was trained as Military Police, and have worked for years in the security field.
That said, Kyle Rittenhouse himself showed better de-escalation skills than you Blue-MAGAs here. He ran from a crowd that was chasing him down for putting-out their (literal)gas-station-parking-lot-dumpster-fire, until he could run no more and found a pistol in his face.
Right, *I’m the one going places looking to start shit that gets innocent people or the just-ignorant killed.
Next to ANY of you geniuses that keep coming after me here, that’s a garbage outlook. The crowd doesn’t make you safe; The crowd isn’t even on your side the moment your survival becomes even mildly inconvenient to their desire act without personal accoutability. Any of you are safer next to me, or Kyle, than with eachother, and that’s a fact. Hell, most of you centrists are so bad at this as to be safer with cops than eachother, and I am very much in the ACAB-stance when I say that.
Oh shit, I missed your PS on first read. You genuinely think I won’t leave my gun locked-up to go have lunch with my kids, or would let a cordon of cops that haven’t made-entry in half-an-hour stop me in an active shooter situation? I would make it safer for them to go in than stay in front of me by that point, assuming they were competent enough to keep me from just sneaking past them.
One is a blue MAGA rapist
Not going to lie, I thought it was pretty clearly labelled.
Now it is:
If you don’t vote for Clinton, Cuomo, and Eric Adams, you’ll get something worse!
looks at the thing that is worse
It’s their biggest donor
