Not what I posted. In the early 2000s this level of hostility against each other didn’t exist. It was slowly manufactured for 20 years. I urge you to go look at newspaper articles about Russia in the early 2000s
Here is an example. The levels of hostility were slowly ramped up. The american military industrial complex needs blood and manufacturing consent takes a while.
Mate, why would I care about US media? I was around in the early 2000 and we were quite concerned about Russia butchering Chechnya. To the point of being very open to Muslim refugees, which is not something Polish society ever does. Also most of the population supported joining NATO and EU against our protests, for the very reason of threat from Russia. This empire has been our oppressor for some 300 years. Go bullshit some naïve westerners, not the people who’s right to self determination you freely give away.
Okay man Russians are evil and we should start a nuclear war and sacrifice millions of lives to destroy Russia because Russia is the only country that’s islamophobic. It’s funny that you don’t care about the American media but you sure do gobble up their naratives.
You even read anything of my comments? Or you just stuck on your script where everything outside of “NATO bad Russia good” is to much to handle? For the last years we’ve been constantly hearing about what we’re allowed to do in our borders from Russians regularly threatening us with dropping the bombs on us. What would legitimate self defence be for that if we were Russian ourselves?
Cuz it sure seems like Russia is the only nation on earth blessed to do anything it wishes against the will of us all living next to its borders. All interest of Russia is above any of the people of Eastern Europe, as westerners always believed. I’m so sorry to have questioned your wisdom sir.
Did I ever say Russia good? No Russia as bad as any nation state. NATO definitely bad. What I’m saying is that this war was manufactured by NATO, this has been confirmed by people who were in power, you don’t need to take my word for it. Look what Merkel herself said. The military industrial complex and a trillion dollar budget can only be legitimised if you have perpetual enemies to fight. The people of eastern Europe are just being used as cannon fodder for capitalist interests, just like Russians are cannon fodder for nationalist/capitalist interests.
No, you just parrot Russian propaganda. Merkel is Russia’s lapdog and made German industry totally dependant on Russian resources sold under market prices. Whatever you claim it is Russians invading Ukraine not the other way around.
Skip about an hour in there is the former head of sociology department at at Max Planck pretty much saying the exact same thing I did, what I said is widely accepted. The United States has been planning this war since the 1990s. It sucks that for a change a European country is the site of imperialist exploitation but it was bound to happen.
It’s funny because there are plenty of professors former CIA agents former american diplomats former military personal who agree with my view, while the only people who peddle your narrative are imperialist propagandists who write for western newspapers.
Even if that were the case (which it is not, but I don’t see a chance we could agree on that); is NATO army in Russia, or is Russia in a sovereign state to which it gave security guarantees? Was Crimea out of anti NATO necessity as well?
Yes Crimea had to do with Ukraine wanting to revoke the right for the Russian navy to use the port there.
There is nothing to agree or disagree about just historical facts and the fact of how US and NATO policy works. NATO was founded to destroy the USSR Europe was always going to be the sacrificial lamb if the cold war were to get hot. That hasn’t changed.
Not what I posted. In the early 2000s this level of hostility against each other didn’t exist. It was slowly manufactured for 20 years. I urge you to go look at newspaper articles about Russia in the early 2000s
https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/20000306/4008777/putin-russia-could-be-a-nato-member
Here is an example. The levels of hostility were slowly ramped up. The american military industrial complex needs blood and manufacturing consent takes a while.
Mate, why would I care about US media? I was around in the early 2000 and we were quite concerned about Russia butchering Chechnya. To the point of being very open to Muslim refugees, which is not something Polish society ever does. Also most of the population supported joining NATO and EU against our protests, for the very reason of threat from Russia. This empire has been our oppressor for some 300 years. Go bullshit some naïve westerners, not the people who’s right to self determination you freely give away.
Okay man Russians are evil and we should start a nuclear war and sacrifice millions of lives to destroy Russia because Russia is the only country that’s islamophobic. It’s funny that you don’t care about the American media but you sure do gobble up their naratives.
You even read anything of my comments? Or you just stuck on your script where everything outside of “NATO bad Russia good” is to much to handle? For the last years we’ve been constantly hearing about what we’re allowed to do in our borders from Russians regularly threatening us with dropping the bombs on us. What would legitimate self defence be for that if we were Russian ourselves?
Cuz it sure seems like Russia is the only nation on earth blessed to do anything it wishes against the will of us all living next to its borders. All interest of Russia is above any of the people of Eastern Europe, as westerners always believed. I’m so sorry to have questioned your wisdom sir.
Did I ever say Russia good? No Russia as bad as any nation state. NATO definitely bad. What I’m saying is that this war was manufactured by NATO, this has been confirmed by people who were in power, you don’t need to take my word for it. Look what Merkel herself said. The military industrial complex and a trillion dollar budget can only be legitimised if you have perpetual enemies to fight. The people of eastern Europe are just being used as cannon fodder for capitalist interests, just like Russians are cannon fodder for nationalist/capitalist interests.
No, you just parrot Russian propaganda. Merkel is Russia’s lapdog and made German industry totally dependant on Russian resources sold under market prices. Whatever you claim it is Russians invading Ukraine not the other way around.
Lol you’re an idiot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6Wmx-zETLs
Skip about an hour in there is the former head of sociology department at at Max Planck pretty much saying the exact same thing I did, what I said is widely accepted. The United States has been planning this war since the 1990s. It sucks that for a change a European country is the site of imperialist exploitation but it was bound to happen.
It’s funny because there are plenty of professors former CIA agents former american diplomats former military personal who agree with my view, while the only people who peddle your narrative are imperialist propagandists who write for western newspapers.
Even if that were the case (which it is not, but I don’t see a chance we could agree on that); is NATO army in Russia, or is Russia in a sovereign state to which it gave security guarantees? Was Crimea out of anti NATO necessity as well?
Yes Crimea had to do with Ukraine wanting to revoke the right for the Russian navy to use the port there.
There is nothing to agree or disagree about just historical facts and the fact of how US and NATO policy works. NATO was founded to destroy the USSR Europe was always going to be the sacrificial lamb if the cold war were to get hot. That hasn’t changed.