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    As much as I LOL’d and agree with the sentiment, this is almost entirely about politics, not infrastructure – the only tenuous connection is that the political shithead happens to own a car company. As such, please try to resist the temptation to post more stuff like this here.


    Edit to address some feedback:

    Yes, !fuckcars is political, but that doesn’t mean everything political is on-topic. If this had been about Musk interfering with CA high-speed rail, it would be unambiguously on-topic. If this had been about the harmful effects of those trucks on other road users, it would be unambiguously on-topic (although for the record, I dislike threads hating on any one particular type of car because they risk missing the point that all of them contribute to most of the problems).

    But it was neither of those things. It was just pointing out the dishonesty of people who bought a particular product with a particular political connotation. The fact that the product happened to be a vehicle was irrelevant to the idea being conveyed. That makes it a good fit for somewhere like !politicalmemes or !enoughmuskspam, maybe, but not here.

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      Elon musk himself is responsible for so much car centric bullshit. he has his own tunnels, his own chargers, he does everything he can to stop any anti-car development, and he has the most dangerous cars out there. this is only one of them by the way, the one that has sharp hard metal corners that are meant to slice pedestrians in half, but his other cars spontaneously combust.

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      I really think that you can’t divorce the car-centric hell we are currently suffering in from the politics that made it happen.

      “Fuck Cars” is 100% a political statement.

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        Guys can we please talk about how we better organize society without being so political?

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          It’s a really odd position to take when politics are literally the only route through which public infrastructure and services pass.

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          “Guys can we please talk about how we better do politics without being political?”

          I hope your statement was satire. Otherwise I question your understanding of basic concepts.

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            It’s so hard to tell. I read it and thought “Good joke!” and upvoted right away. But I had the same reaction when r/TheDonald started, so my sensor is busted.

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          I don’t know. People are writing and calling the government every day, protesting online to attempt to improve public transportation, yet in vain. Well guess who’s in control. And it’s not just public transportation, you know.

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      It’s also a shitty, unreliable, dangerous vehicle that allows them to be on the road because Elon is the richest dipshit on earth right now.

      He’s pushed past regulations and forced his shitty vehicles to be on roads all across the world, including Europe, which doesn’t have the road infrastructure to handle things like the cybertruck. It’s bypassing regulation after regulation to show up on the road as a massive eyesore.

      The Cybertruck is the culmination of everything fuckcars is about imo.

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        and only 2 types of people bought these, in the west coast, there arnt many magats that bought it, but ignorant to politics asian people.

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        IMO while the post shows a cybertruck and it is the culmination of this community, the post clearly focuses on how horrible elon musk is, which would be better suited somewhere else (even tho I vehemently agree with the sentiment)

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        Where in the EU is it legal to drive a Cybertruck? Not in Germany as far as I know. I thought it was EU regulations that blocked it

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      Elon Musk is not a “political shithead” he is a primary reason why we don’t have better forms of transportation, and it’s worth pointing it out every single time. Also, aren’t virtually all of the infrastructure issues that exist that make cars such a prevalent force in our society almost entirely predicated on politics? Was Robert Moses not motivated by his own politics? But was it not his policies that essentially birthed the modern hostility to humans that urban areas have?

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        Politics is the way we make decisions that affect more than three people.

        Anything that affects society is politics. Even choosing to not do something is politics.

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        he is the sole reason for trashing fast rail in california, long enough for trumps 1st term elaine chao to block funding which delayed things for like 5+years, and even now its being half-assed.

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        Elon Musk is why America doesn’t have 5 minute cities and rail transport? He’s only been politically active for a handful of years dude

        He’s all sorts of bad, and was put in charge of gutting the government, but his year or two with the ear of the president has nothing on the previous 90 years of damage

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          Before he was “politically active” he was a billionaire making his money off of selling cars. One of the way he achieved that was by buying up contracts for high-speed rail projects and then not building them, or turning them into an entirely different car-centric thing (like his tunnel in vegas). Elon Musk didn’t SUDDENLY become a piece of shit when Trump was elected, he took advantage of that fact to be a bigger piece of shit.

          Elon Musk is why America doesn’t have 5 minute cities and rail transport?

          So Yeah. He is. Or at least one of them.

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        Yeah, the whole hyper loop scam [1] he invented was to kill high speed rail in California. Fuck him.

        [1] just see it in Las Vegas all out is a tunnel for cars that you pray there’s no accident because of fire starts you are stuck and can’t escape.

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      Give me a break. This shithead intentionally sabotaged high speed rail in CA. Lots of other issues.

      Fuck cars and fuck this car douche.

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      I mean there was the whole hyperloop thing he pushed in an attempt to prevent high speed rail construction in california.

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      Do your job. Temp ban people who post low effort posts, including all image posts.

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      Thank you for being the voice of moderation! I bought a Model 3 in 2018, and the car itself has been great. Considering that it’s now paid off, and that it’s not okay to trash a perfectly usable resource, it would be irresponsible to replace it just to make a political statement. That said, I do have this same bumper sticker on my car 😅

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    Elon has always been a psychotic piece of shit. Anyone thats paid attention to him since fuckin paypal has known that.

    People just didnt care, in the classic self centered way, until it started to personally affect them. . and the biggest way it affects them now is riding around in his terrible fuckin vehicles, which creates an association with right wing assholery that they didnt want to have public.

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    Regardless of if Musk is crazy or not, they still bought an oversized truck for nothing other than to inflate their ego.

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    He first publicly showed how crazy he is during the kids getting stuck in the cave, then he got more bold.

    But yeah, cybertruck started being sold after he started doing Nazi salutes.

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      The most offensive of these stickers i have seen is: i bought this before we knew elon was crazy.

      We? Don’t drag me into this. Thia car is 4 years old.

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      Yeah, it’s not for the workers or the idea of American built stuff. I’m sure it’s better if people buy Chinese

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    He was a scumbag union buster long before he “went crazy”. His parents used slave labor to mine emeralds before his company built cars. The people of this country will believe any bubbleheaded legend of a good rich guy not look him up until he shows his ass. Too little, too late.

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    The cybertruck itself is evidence that he wasn’t in his right mind.

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    Elon never “went crazy”, he’s just a liar. And the bigger his following became the less he needed to lie about his opinions or goals.

    Engineers like Thunderf00t could already prove Elon was full of shit long before it became incredibly obvious.

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      Calling the rescue worker s pedophile was the mask off moment. Before that, he was trolling other rich people and promoting his Mars mission. He was always crazy, but we thought he was on our side. We wanted one rich guy on our side for once.

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        The issue is thinking that anyone that rich would ever be on your side.

        The mentality that allows someone to get rich like that (besides copious amounts of sheer luck) is incompatible with the needs of the many. If they’re “on your side” they have a personal agenda to get out on top over their competition. You are a tool for them to exploit to ensure their infinite growth.

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    It took me a while to realize he was a crazy con man, to my fault, it was only when he started meddling with stuff I had some understanding. Around the same time, he was investing in movies and making cameos: Thank You for Smoking, Iron Man…

    But people were already pointing that out from his time on Paypal. And you can find stuff even before that. So no,

    He was crazy/con man even before Tesla.

    There is no excuse. Just because there was a time that he posted rainbows and talked about climate does not sane wash his actions, it is just that he was targeting another kind of people. Just like companies rainbow their logos during pride month.

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    We knew he was not an upstanding guy long before he bought Twitter. Just not everyone was paying attention. As well I hope they enjoy their inescapable burn chamber. That thing is more of a hazard to the owner than those around them than the Pinto was. Regular Car Reviews did a good one on it.

    https://youtu.be/L3oO510dyVI