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    I’ve actually seen and helped to operate one of these connected to a tractor. And I must say that these scare me so much, lol.

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      The environmental impact of chipping the rotation class in severely overshadows the difference in the degree of environmental friendliness between these two options. Let’s just pick whichever one is most convenient or portable at the time.

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      We haven’t even seen all of the redacted files. They never released all of them.

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      And remember everyone, if we ever do, there will only be a couple sacrificial lambs that just spend the last 5-15 years of their life delaying through our justice system.

      The files are not important at this point. At least not in terms of what actually must be done to enact justice. Every single person with political power or influence is at fault and complacent. The entire Epstein class needs to be purged and their wealth and property seized.

      There is really no justice that can be reached outside of a literal revolution.

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    That one night be a little underpowered. You want it to be slow, but not jam up completely. If it takes too long they’ll just bleed out.

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    What about the serene and beautiful simplicity of just flinging them from very high cliffs?

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    A woodchipper might work but you gotta admit that a guillotine is a good way to get a head…

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    Whenever guillotines are brought up I like to point out that ~90% of the people guillotined during the French Revolution were regular commoners. And the last guy to be guillotined was the guy who had been in charge of deciding who to guillotine next.

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      We need hammurabis code really badly right now. The justice systems across the globe are just not anywhere near just. Israel and the american police forces would be a fine place to start.

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      But those freaks would probably like it.

      I say hook them up to nutrient IV drips, and put sensory depravation gear on them, and just forget them in the darkness.

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          How is that better? I read the descriptions, and there was “only” horrible blistering and burning on affected areas and blindness for a few days.

          The effects of the aforementioned drug, though:

          Incapacitating effects can last anywhere from 5-10 days, sometimes manifesting as a full 3-day peak of vivid hallucinations, along with prolonged confusion, amnesia, and inhibition of speech and cognition. Some subjects exposed to the drug would not fully recover for almost 20 days. Even six months after exposure, a few subjects demonstrated significant increases in the scores on the hypochondriasis, depression, hysteria, psychasthenia, schizophrenia, and mania scales. The drug’s potency caught the attention of the military, which considered weaponizing EA-3167 for topical use, potentially even through a handshake.

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            Because it grows out of the ground. A couldn’t even begin to figure out where to get that other thing.

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              But has basically the same effects as bleach, which is probably easier to get.

              If you want something natural and easy to get: daturas.

              Datura is a genus of nine species of highly poisonous, vespertine-flowering plants belonging to the nightshade family (Solanaceae).[1] They are commonly known as thornapples or jimsonweeds, but are also known as devil’s trumpets or mad apple[2] (not to be confused with angel’s trumpets, which are placed in the closely related genus Brugmansia). Other English common names include moonflower, devil’s weed, and hell’s bells. All species of Datura are extremely poisonous and psychoactive, especially their seeds and flowers, which can cause respiratory depression, arrhythmias, fever, delirium, hallucinations, anticholinergic toxidrome, psychosis, and death, if taken internally.

              Datura is considered a deliriant. Due to the potent combination of anticholinergic substances it contains, Datura intoxication typically produces the effects of anticholinergic delirium (usually involving a complete or relative inability to differentiate reality from fantasy); bizarre thoughts, hyperthermia; tachycardia; bizarre, and possibly violent behavior; dry skin; dry mouth; illusions; and severe mydriasis (dilated pupils) with resultant painful photophobia that can last several days.[42] Muscle stiffness, urinary retention, temporary paralysis, disrobing, emotional bluntness, dysphoria, and confusion are often reported, and pronounced amnesia is another commonly reported effect.[43][44] The psychoactive alkaloids scopolamine and atropine are also both known for their characteristic hyperactive effects and ability to cause stark and dream-like hallucinations.[45][46] The onset of symptoms generally occurs around 30 to 60 minutes after ingesting the herb. These symptoms generally last from 24 to 48 hours, but have been reported in some cases to last two weeks or longer.

              In Pharmacology and Abuse of Cocaine, Amphetamines, Ecstasy and Related Designer Drugs, Freye asserts, “Few substances have received as many severely negative recreational experience reports as has Datura.”

              Jimsonweed is literally a super common plant, found throughout the US and worldwide, like are many other daturas as well.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datura

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          While I do enjoy a more natural approach, I don’t think they’re deserving of a toxic chemical.

          I prefer the sweet irony of them being forced to experience the affront to god that their system made.

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            Irony is good, but if you really want to drag the suffering out then you’ve gotta out off the carnage until after you’ve really broken them.

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              Hence the drug designed by the agency to give you hallucinations described as “unspeakable horrors” with effects that can last for weeks.