• eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    How I’m approaching it in my apartment building

    “Hey let’s do a favor board! See, on this side you post something you like to do, on that side you post something you could use help with. Don’t try to keep it even with individual people, keep it even for your relationship to the building as a whole.”

    “Want to join a buyer’s club? We can partner with a wholesaler and get deliveries right to the apartment every couple of weeks. If you carry my stuff up for me I’ll make that pasta you like.”

    And of course the apartment building doesn’t want that stuff going on because they want us juxtaposed but atomized.

    Which leads right into “let’s form a tenant union”.

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    ‘Power to the people’ effectively and summarily explains my political stance in a manner Boomers can digest.

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      ‘Power to the people’

      Okay, but I’ve been told that other people are stupid and untrustworthy and fundamentally evil.

      Like, I’m happy if its power to my people. I just don’t want any other people getting their hands on it. Because what if they do to me what I’ve been profitably doing to them?

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    I mostly talk about cooperatives. Sometimes I’ll explain its a form of stateless socialism, but the point is that workers or members own the means of production. Multi stakeholder models can still be compatible with the current shitstain that is public ownership. In which case the biggest issues can be somewhat mitigated by worker elected board member control. We need governmental support, laws, regulation, subsidies, tax breaks, etc for cooperatives, but capitalist will always argue they just need to compete in the market like everyone else. You know like how traditional capitalist firms compete with subsidies, tax breaks, favorable regulations and laws, bailouts, etc.

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    I don’t think it is that hard actually.

    I believe everyone deserves free healthcare, I believe everyone deserves housing, I believe we have a duty to provide high quality education for everyone in our society, I believe Climate Change is an existential threat to humanity.

    I believe fundamentally that all authority that we have not explicitly consented to is illegitimate to some degree and that current forms of democracy and are an approximation of that freedom and thus the right to privacy and the right to live your life as you see fit are both of paramount importance to keep that approximation from shattering.

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      The “all authority is illegitimate” might generate some friction with some people who might overwise be an ally. They might stop listening and lose any nuance.

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        Is all authority illegitimate? I wonder about experts in fields and experiential based authority. Like I think we should listen to epidemiologists and immunologists more than farmer Joe who might be a great guy and down to Earth but is not an expert on vaccines. Even in a socialist or communist society, where he is not spouting harmful rhetoric, he still objectively knows less than a doctor in said field.

        Same for energy and power plants. I would trust a nuclear physicist or engineer in that field and topic, more than someone who has nothing to do with said field.

        That doesn’t mean they then get to be a boss or set up an arbitrary hierarchy but there is objectively some form of authoritative voice there in their field.

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          Many people take the idea that “everyone is entitled to their opinion” too far, and it turns into “everyone is entitled to their facts”

          Humans are feelings driven, so they’re more likely to go with what their friend says than some mean scientist who makes them feel bad. The inability of people to put aside their feelings is part of why we’re in this mess.

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        True, but I always clarify that in practice I endorse all kinds of beaucracy, governmental structures and compromises, my point is that I think everyone can understand on some level the philosophical point that we should consider our agency with respect to the structures of control imposed upon us and trained into us since before we were even politically aware even if we recognize they are necessary to solve practical problems in many cases.

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      I believe everyone deserves free healthcare, I believe everyone deserves housing, I believe we have a duty to provide high quality education for everyone in our society, I believe Climate Change is an existential threat to humanity.

      BuT WhO Is gOiNg tO PaY FoR It?!

      That’s the perpetual conservative rejoinder and the thing that makes “everyone deserves” ring the Far-Left Anti-America Killed-100 Billion People alarm bells. As soon as you talk about reorganizing the legal private ownership of property to optimize quality of life for the public, the people with the majority of property (and those who control the manufacturers of credit and the administrators in charge of distributing large labor contracts) show their reactionary tendencies.

      I believe fundamentally that all authority that we have not explicitly consented to is illegitimate

      I mean, that’s fine as a belief. The more pressing concern is your action. As soon as you explicitly resist the orders of the regional authority, you’re faced with the organized violence of the professional police. And then what?

      You are, of course, more than welcome to shout your feelings into the void of the Empty Internet or argue with digital agents designed to give you textbook rebuttals or encourage non-confrontational expressions of dissent. But you are strictly prohibited from directly challenging any actual administrative power, because that’s Against The Rules. And violating the rules is Violence. And any act of violence you perpetrate justifies an escalated tier of violence against you, until you relent.

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    I personally don’t care about using scary words unless I know they’re explicitly anti-communism. Respectability politics doesn’t usually work.

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    I just say democratic confederalism in the spirit of Abdullah Öcalan. Its a non-state societal structure fueled by the ideology of women life freedom, that societies are as free as they treat their women.

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        normie’s a word mostly associated with the alt-right, and they definitely use it in a condescending manner, similar to how they’ll call people NPCs to dehumanise them.

        that book about the alt-right, “kill all normies” was published around 2016 or 2017 iirc, so i assume they’ve been using that word p heavily for at least around a decade.