• ButtermilkBiscuit@feddit.nl
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    9 hours ago

    wow, hot take in 2026. I revere the genocide terrorist state. Fuck Gavin Newsom vote for literally anyone else.

    • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      8 hours ago

      I mean this is definitely taking shit out of context when the very next words were that he “deeply deeply opposed Bibi Netanyahu’s leadership, his opposition to the two state solution and how he is indulging the far right in reguards to the West Bank”

      This would be the equivalent to Newsom saying he reveres the United States but opposes Trump’s leadership and use of racist practices to indulge the far right in reguards to immigrants in the U.S. and foreign policy pertaining to the middle East and beyond.

      That isn’t supporting/revering the far rights wants, that’s acknowledging the people aren’t always the equivalent of what the government is doing, just like we said the people in Gaza are not a direct reflection of the actions taken by Hamas on Oct 7th.

      Politicians won’t get anywhere saying every person in the U.S. and Israel are fucking horrible, also please vote for me to change it. (Yes I get that the people of Israel don’t vote for him, but if he’s having to answer questions pertaining to Israel, supporting the 2 state solution at this point is really all he can do and still get into any office)

      I don’t want him to be a presidential candidate, but he didn’t answer these questions stupidily.

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        6 hours ago

        Israelis voted for Netenyahu 6 goddamn time. Every single goddamn isrseli prime ministers support occupation and is a war criminal . Israel is a democracy so there is zero excuses for voting for war criminals.

        You can’t love a country that still do settler colonialism

        Politicians won’t get anywhere saying every person in the U.S. and Israel are fucking horrible,

        False

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        7 hours ago

        The problem here in my opinion is Newsome implying that Netanyahu is the only problem, which is like saying Trump is the only thing rotten with the US. Zionism isn’t Netanyahu, Netanyahu is a Zionist.

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          7 hours ago

          By saying he is appealing to the far right, means that far right exists in a capacity large enough to garner decent sized support appealing to them. I don’t read this at all as saying N is the only problem.

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            6 hours ago

            It’s not actually possible to garner support from the far right by appealing to them without going far to the right on every issue. They aren’t undecided voters, winning them over requires being farther to the right than the candidates they already support.

            Go to the right on Israel without going to the right on trans issues, environmental issues, immigration, regulations, taxes, etc then they’ll ignore you. Why vote for diet right-wing when they can vote for the real thing?

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        7 hours ago

        No, sorry, when you’re an apartheid state that has engaged in genocide, you shouldn’t be revered any more. That’s going to take a bit more than a change of leadership to fix.

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            6 hours ago

            It is what you say. If Hitler was not the first nazi head of the state you couldn’t say I have an issue with Hitler but no issue with nazi germany. The same thing with Israel it is ruled by the supermaist ideology called zionism from the start you can’t say i hate Netenyshu but not isrsel as colonial state

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        7 hours ago

        You’re in the wrong comm for reason and nuance. We just hate Democrats in here. Rants only. Doesn’t really matter why. I mean, supporting Israel, - hoo boy. Today’s lefty would rather support destroying the Jewish state and all who support it.

        Just like that guy!

        • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          6 hours ago

          Yeah, that’s why I didn’t bother downvoting anyone. Really there is no easy solution. Studying the ways that states/groups/cultures have been able to reintegrate and achieve prosperity post the segregation/divide and conquer tactics during British occupation in areas around the world may point to tactics that do and don’t work. Ultimately an integrated society that learns their neighbors beliefs and pursuit of happiness does not infringe upon their own and they should push for a community that values all of their pursuits so they can prosper together would be great… But that’s just all nonsensical words to people who have been taught for so long that a person is A if they believe/look/walk/talk like such. And therefore they are different from them in group B,C,D or what not, and can not be trusted.

          One thing is for sure, the people of the U.S. won’t be of any help in creating an ongoing peaceful solution to those elsewhere in the world when we cannot find ways to implement better relations here ourselves.