Moar overtime, you lazy serfs!

  • Pissed@lemmy.ml
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    9 days ago

    Did I say that? I’d say socialism isn’t attainable without some kind of civil war. Also there are lots of different ways a society can be built and organised and how it interacts with technology.

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        9 days ago

        Who says you need to organise a society in a way that needs toilet cleaners, and who says cleaning toilets is such a God awful job that nobody would do it. I clean my toilet at home and have cleaned toilets at work. Who says cleaning a bathroom isn’t something that every one in a firm can be involved in?

        From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"

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            9 days ago

            What? You think there is no way that we could organise a society that doesn’t require a permanent underclass to clean up your shits?

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              No. What I’m saying is that I haven’t seen it work in reality. I can imagine a society where it might work. I can imagine anything. That doesn’t mean it’s attainable.

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                9 days ago

                What do you mean? There are several governments that have socialist governments. On a theory point its very hard to built a different kind of society especially when you’re forced to compete with a capitalist society, its why lots of the Bolsheviks used to believe that a global revolution would be nescissary to completely other throw capitalism. Have you never lived in communal living or with your family where you had to clean up your own shits? Because I have and I’ve seen it work. I’ve also seen worker coops work, and yes there are people who work in worker co ops who clean the toilets.

                I’ll say it again: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs

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                The capitalism hellscape that is Japan has the children cleaning their schools to teach them autonomy and mutual respect. You can easily organize a company like that with correct education.

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                    9 days ago

                    I think I made clear that Japan is not an example of society when I said “capitalism hellscape that is Japan”. But it’s a real life society that made something like Pissed proposed work.

                    If you call education coercion that is a you problem.