Moar overtime, you lazy serfs!

    • Pissed@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      7 days ago

      What? You think there is no way that we could organise a society that doesn’t require a permanent underclass to clean up your shits?

      • Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        7 days ago

        No. What I’m saying is that I haven’t seen it work in reality. I can imagine a society where it might work. I can imagine anything. That doesn’t mean it’s attainable.

        • Pissed@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          7 days ago

          What do you mean? There are several governments that have socialist governments. On a theory point its very hard to built a different kind of society especially when you’re forced to compete with a capitalist society, its why lots of the Bolsheviks used to believe that a global revolution would be nescissary to completely other throw capitalism. Have you never lived in communal living or with your family where you had to clean up your own shits? Because I have and I’ve seen it work. I’ve also seen worker coops work, and yes there are people who work in worker co ops who clean the toilets.

          I’ll say it again: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs

        • ZeroHora@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          7 days ago

          The capitalism hellscape that is Japan has the children cleaning their schools to teach them autonomy and mutual respect. You can easily organize a company like that with correct education.

            • ZeroHora@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              7 days ago

              I think I made clear that Japan is not an example of society when I said “capitalism hellscape that is Japan”. But it’s a real life society that made something like Pissed proposed work.

              If you call education coercion that is a you problem.