If you’re obsessing over work-life balance, your problem isn’t the hours—it’s the job, says Bupa’s CEO. And some of the world’s most powerful people agree.
I think it really depends, if I were to work at a workers co op where I’m a part owner of the business I really probably wouldn’t mind working more. All these CEOs get insane compensation for their work, why do you think they don’t mind working more? Obviously I wouldn’t want to have to spend 7 days a week in a steel factory a coal mine or a slaughterhouse etc.
I mean who knows maybe he does spend more time on his work, whether his work is productive for society is another matter. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with work, there is something wrong with being exploited.
Yeah, nobody wants to do those jobs, but we all rely on people doing them, the obvious answer would be to automate the jobs people don’t want to do. Instead you see modern capitalists automating away the jobs people do want to do, like white collar work.
Yes that sounds more fulfilling than working in a coal mine, obviously most jobs are bullshit. Recently I’ve been wondering wtf is going to happen with all those skyscrapers once AI takes every ones white collar job (if it even can) one of the main reason of trying to get people back into the office was that commercial property owners.
I’m obviously aware that our economy needs to fundamentally change.
Did I say that? I’d say socialism isn’t attainable without some kind of civil war. Also there are lots of different ways a society can be built and organised and how it interacts with technology.
Who says you need to organise a society in a way that needs toilet cleaners, and who says cleaning toilets is such a God awful job that nobody would do it. I clean my toilet at home and have cleaned toilets at work. Who says cleaning a bathroom isn’t something that every one in a firm can be involved in?
From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"
That’s the whole point really, the people who start the company will gladly work 6 days a week and stay up late at night if they have to, and travel through different time zones. Which is fine if they enjoy it, but in an ordinary job for minimum wage I’m not going to act with that amount of loyalty to the company lmao. I’ll just resign if they pay me minimum and want me to attend meetings and pretend I’m some kind of executive. When I worked with timber they wanted me to meet suppliers to gain product knowledge but it never proved useful in my 5 months. It just took me away from customers or delayed my lunch break even further.
Honestly I agree that if people were not alienated from their labor they would probably want to work more.
Absolutely fucking not.
I think it really depends, if I were to work at a workers co op where I’m a part owner of the business I really probably wouldn’t mind working more. All these CEOs get insane compensation for their work, why do you think they don’t mind working more? Obviously I wouldn’t want to have to spend 7 days a week in a steel factory a coal mine or a slaughterhouse etc.
They don’t “work more;” they play more and call it work.
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I mean who knows maybe he does spend more time on his work, whether his work is productive for society is another matter. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with work, there is something wrong with being exploited.
Yeah, I’m sure those workers in the slaughterhouses and coal mines will be happy to work there once they’re un-alienated.
Yeah, nobody wants to do those jobs, but we all rely on people doing them, the obvious answer would be to automate the jobs people don’t want to do. Instead you see modern capitalists automating away the jobs people do want to do, like white collar work.
People don’t want white collar jobs because the work is fulfilling. They want them because the jobs aren’t physically demanding and they pay well.
Yes that sounds more fulfilling than working in a coal mine, obviously most jobs are bullshit. Recently I’ve been wondering wtf is going to happen with all those skyscrapers once AI takes every ones white collar job (if it even can) one of the main reason of trying to get people back into the office was that commercial property owners.
I’m obviously aware that our economy needs to fundamentally change.
So socialism isn’t obtainable with current technology?
Did I say that? I’d say socialism isn’t attainable without some kind of civil war. Also there are lots of different ways a society can be built and organised and how it interacts with technology.
And who’s going to clean the toilets?
Who says you need to organise a society in a way that needs toilet cleaners, and who says cleaning toilets is such a God awful job that nobody would do it. I clean my toilet at home and have cleaned toilets at work. Who says cleaning a bathroom isn’t something that every one in a firm can be involved in?
From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"
That’s the whole point really, the people who start the company will gladly work 6 days a week and stay up late at night if they have to, and travel through different time zones. Which is fine if they enjoy it, but in an ordinary job for minimum wage I’m not going to act with that amount of loyalty to the company lmao. I’ll just resign if they pay me minimum and want me to attend meetings and pretend I’m some kind of executive. When I worked with timber they wanted me to meet suppliers to gain product knowledge but it never proved useful in my 5 months. It just took me away from customers or delayed my lunch break even further.
Did I ever say you should be expected to?