That all works until “couch pisser” is “murderer” or those “entrepreneur” types or someone who wants to be a “king”. Or is a “manipulator”

Then you have several thousand people who like the idea of having a “king” and now you have a hierarchy.

Irrational people are more numerous then you think.

And a group that does decided a member isn’t welcome anymore is a hierarchy. It doesn’t require you to be exploiting the person at the bottom. I’ll be it a fairly flat one but hey.

My example is extremely simple and that’s on purpose. my point is you will never be able to get enough people to form little in groups where they all work together because without incentive people will just do whatever the hell they want and that small group of people can disproportionately affect the larger whole even if they are playing by your rules.

Anarchism works in small groups. But it falls apart as you scale up, by nature of the limited resources of our world some order must be kept or things will slide into chaos. Some amorphous blob of a group isn’t going to be able to do that.

So yes. You and your flat mates have now formed a hierarchy lol you and your flat mates on the top. Couch pisser on the bottom. It’s an obtuse example but I think it reflects reality.

Your example of “I want to deport every brown person” is an perfect example of a real life couch pisser lol.

People will decide to enact their will onto others based on their personal morals. If enough people come together with the same morals they will as a group decide to form a hierarchy.

It’s like if you dispersed a bunch of dust into space evenly. It’ll start to clump eventually.

Any system that effectively minimize the ability for one will to destabilize the group as a whole is probably best.

Anarchism just isn’t that. Its like the libertarian version of leftist policy.

Structure must exist because not everyone’s wants to play fairly and not everyone needs to be worrying about that.

What if one your flat mates decided to start pissing on the couch instead of the toilet lol are you going to do

1. Call the police
2. Sue him
3. Kick him out with the rest of your flat mates
4. Talk to him and hope he stops
5. Leave yourself
6. Call a mental health clinic

"Anarchy is a form of society without rulers. As a type of stateless society, it is commonly contrasted with states, which are polities that claim a monopoly on violence over a permanent territory. Beyond a lack of government, it can more precisely refer to societies that lack any form of authority or hierarchy. While viewed positively by anarchists, the primary advocates of anarchy, it is viewed negatively by advocates of statism, who see it in terms of social disorder. "

I’m going to be honest, and maybe it’s a difference in personal experience. But I can’t even count my fingers and toes the amount of people I personally know who would immediately take advantage of that situation.

Anarchism relies on everyone playing by the rules. We already live in a state with a monopoly on violence and we still can’t get everyone to play by the rules .

My main argument against anarchy as a large scale societal system is that nearly immediately bands and kingdoms would begin to form.

Humans existed in the natural order for many millions of years before modern society. Even then they adopted district forms of hierarchy again and again. It won’t take long before someone tries to make themselves a king and fuck over everyone else.

I want to be clear though I believe the ideal form of government is not even close to any of the gov we have around today. So I don’t want to be seen as arguing for the bullshit we are currently doing lol.

It’s ok for very furnace level exploration. Like 100 level stuff. If it’s something you’d google and easily find in an article it’s likely to do a ok job.

I’ve also found it’s good for tedious straightforward tasks. Anything that would be uncomfortable or timely or automate manually. Best for one offs.

I’ve also found it’s extremly good for translation, which was it’s originally use.

But that’s the thing, they aren’t anarchist. All of those groups you describe end up either having a power structure appointed by someone else or created by the group.

I used to feel the same way, but I’ve come to realize it’s slop that just looks better on the surface not slop that is actually better.

At least it compiles most the time now. But it’s never quite right… Everytime I have Claude write some section of code 6 more things spring up that need to be fixed in the new code. Never ending cycle. On the surface the code appears more readable but it’s not

Your right, they don’t have any solutions. Not all ideas are good ideas even if given a name.

Anarchism by its nature cannot work, and anything to mitigate its faults just adds some form of democratic power system, which IMO is not anarchism it’s something else.

Unfortunately Its now in the Dean’s pockets 😭

I bet it’s probably correlated with low education as most things

Why do some people just have the worst fucking ideas…and why is “some” starting to feel like “most”

Apex legends… I know, I know

I have a back up SSD with windows on I swap out to play the very few games that still require it that I just can’t give up. But I don’t have the need to duel boot anymore. I just keep the SSD to scratch my itch

I’m glad they made them wider instead of like , longer to fit more people lol