for the record, i dont really buy these things, not very tasty and quite expensive lol

pro suicide propaganda

great comment, lots of fun. i wanna start at the bottom;

Why remind people of the moral conundrum in the label.

for someone in that “scene”, reminders are constant and unrelenting, meat is a basis of western society. bringing it up isnt declaring an unspoken truth, it’s just declaring a somewhat recognisable flavour profile.

And if flavor is the main goal then I think the industry in general is doing a bad job.

well, yeah, maybe. idk ive never made a better one, its probably really fucking hard to make products that taste specifically like beef, especially to a palate that eats it regularly.

if I’m making reb bean burgers instead of beef burgers I imagine it’s more useful to know “this is mostly bean with some binder” than “beef substitute”

i definately see what your saying, but meat is like, the easiest thing to cook, (especially within the context that meat subs would be eaten in). burger is an especially bad example as you really just want to sear it.

dunno if any of these answers are satisfying, let me know :)

your rebuttal is another example of the african slave trade? am i misunderstanding something?

because the wealth generated by those crimes is still extremely influential today.

and that “1 specific situation” was the industrialised destruction of culture, people, families and minds for centuries.

are those reasons in the room with us right now?

bro the african slave trade was ongoing for centuries. what the fuck are you on about??

lol sure, it was the wording, no other reason Canada (the colonialist, imperial, white nation) would abstain on this vote.

why call it the people are trying to avoid?

firstly, culture, specifically cooking culture is very much based around 4 main protein types, beef chicken lamb and pork. when cooking you want something easy and obvious to substitute, so you pick the thing labeled the thing you want.

also, most people don’t stop eating meat because it tastes bad, they stop eating it because it’s inherently cruel and a huge burden on the world’s fragile ecosystem. of course i still want a juicy steak, but morality gets in the way and i compromise.

lol, you misunderstand though, they are not one of us.