GrapheneOS is currently defending its use of AI coding tools on Mastodon against complaints by various accounts claiming to be users.

We do not understand where you’re coming from or why you’re so incredibly angry with us. It’s not justified and does not make sense.

  • General_Effort@lemmy.worldOP
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    7 days ago

    It’s pretty insignificant compared to the rest of the economy. Focusing on AI to the exclusion of bigger issues is actively harmful.

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      It also didn’t exist at all 5 years ago. Why are we as a society allowing new ecological damage? When will we stop? The billionaires want it to be never as long as it gives them money and power.

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        7 days ago

        Renewable energy makes good progress, but as you can see here, many people have other priorities.

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            6 days ago

            One rarely builds a dedicated power plant for a single building. It is more efficient to build large power plants for general use and use cable to transmit the electricity to where it is needed.

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              6 days ago

              That didn’t answer by question at all, I suspect because you couldn’t think of way to twist running new gas turbine generators specifically to power these monstrosities into a good thing.

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      7 days ago

      It’s pretty insignificant

      Citation needed. You’re just straight-up lying or clueless as to what’s actually going on.

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          That’s an “I have no idea what I’m talking about” if I ever heard one.

          “Citation needed” IS polite. You claim it’s not polluting, so clearly you know the CO2 emissions numbers from SpaceX’s datacenters that are being run off direct-connect to natural gas generators. So, how about it? How “not polluting” are they?

          • setsubyou@lemmy.world
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            It’s a matter of framing. If you compare them to older datacenters they are atrocious because they’re bigger and consume more energy. But in the grand scheme of things all things IT pale in comparison to e.g. producing beef. Now with that framing you can’t sell AI hate though because people like beef, so it’s always just comparing large datacenters to smaller datacenters with the obvious results.

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              6 days ago

              That’s an awful lot of typing instead of just saying “I’m a lying liar who doesn’t know what he’s talking about. That’s why I offer no actual data - because the actual numbers destroy my entire argument.”

          • General_Effort@lemmy.worldOP
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            Unfortunately, as you can see, you are in a crowd of liars. Now, I am certainly not accusing you personally of being dishonest, but it does tend to bias your audience against you. Sorry.

            The numbers aren’t particularly bad. It’s not for nothing that the EU has classified natural gas as green energy.