A coordinated online campaign has reportedly encouraged users to alter fuel station information on digital maps across Russia, creating confusion among drivers.

The activity involves changing station statuses by marking locations with available fuel as empty or showing closed stations as operational.

Supporters of the campaign claim the effort is designed to disrupt travel decisions, increase uncertainty, and create additional pressure around fuel availability.

  • VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    The people of Ukraine are having their homes destroyed, their families murdered, and their children kidnapped

    The people of Russia don’t have gasoline

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      This is indeed terrible, but do you imply that everything Ukraine does now is fair game because of it? Would you also cheer them on if they openly used chemical weapons, tortured POW’s, and terrorized Russian citizens and nationals?

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        I’m not an expert on international law or human rights, but I think posting fake gas prices and " used chemical weapons, tortured POW’s, and terrorized Russian citizens and nationals" are in slightly different categories.

        Of course bad faith arguments usually don’t hold water…

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          and terrorized Russian citizens and nationals" are in slightly different categories.

          Are they?

          Only the magnitude is (and yes, a lot) different, but category is very much the same.

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            Yes they are. Read the full snippet, not just the highlighted bit. The “Its primary intent is […] To further a terrorist group organization’s objectives”

            God you’re dumb. You’re almost cyber terrorizing Lemmy!

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              God you’re dumb

              No you.

              You’re almost cyber terrorizing Lemmy!

              Do I instill fear, panic, or physical disruption of your critical infrastructure?

              Yes they are. Read the full snippet, not just the highlighted bit. The “Its primary intent is […] To further a terrorist group organization’s objectives”

              What’s your point? How does that absolve the action out of this definition. Speak it out.

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                Do instill fear, panic, or physical disruption of your critical infrastructure?

                Is a website that collects crowdsorced gas prices critical infrastructure? It feels that you trolling and they trolling of just… Trolling. It’s not even hacking! Are review bombs on steam or google maps cyber terrorism?

                My point is that you can’t cherry pick a few words from a definition and call it a day. Same as you can’t try to deviate from your original comparison that posting fake gas prices is like torture.

                I’m going to walk back the dumb comment. You’re smart enough to see when you’re saying dumb things and to try to spin to a different direction. Just not smart enough to realize you said something dumb until after you post it.

                Although is you need me to spell it out further, I might have to walk back my walk back :)

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                  Is a website that collects crowdsorced gas prices critical infrastructure?

                  Do I instill fear, panic, or physical disruption of your critical infrastructure?

                  you can’t cherry pick a few words from a definition and call it a day


                  Are review bombs on steam or google maps cyber terrorism?

                  It can be. I won’t post anymore AI slop screenshots, but I’m sure you are grown up enough to be able to type “review bomb legal” into your search engine of choice and find for yourself.


                  Same as you can’t try to deviate from your original comparison that posting fake gas prices is like torture

                  you can’t cherry pick a few words from

                  …my fucking messages


                  dumb

                  dumb

                  not smart enough

                  dumb

                  God you’re dumb

                  R3?

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                    Please keep posting AI, it at least gives an excuse for being slop.

                    Good luck finding gas. I’ll try to “terrorize” you with some fake prices. You can in return cyber terrorize me with downvotes or silly trolling attempts.

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            Edited map does not really create fear or disruption of critical infrastructure, and I’m not sure about panic either

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        Russia invaded their country. As far as I’m concerned anything they do is fair game until every Russian soldier is off their land.

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          You seriously just doubled down that “anything” includes torture and violation of international law. Even when it does not benefit the war effort whatsoever? What is wrong with you?

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            Russia invaded their land and killed their citizens without cause. If you want to bitch about violating international law, bitch about that. As far as I’m concerned the defending can do whatever they have to do to end the threat as long as it stops when the invading force leaves. Ukraine didn’t start this conflict.

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              do whatever they have to do to end the threat

              Here we go, you’ve finally you’ve said it, it’s not really anything, was it? Of course there is an asterisk.

              Now thats cleared up, lets go back to the original comment. Does posting misinformation on community gas maps do anything to end the threat? How? I’ll remind you that it does not affect military in any capacity as they dont use public gas stations.

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                It affects the population. Who will get pissed off and start causing trouble at home. Dividing the Russian governments attention. It affects commerce so there’s less money moving around, therefore less tax to pay for the war.

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                  As I’ve said in the other thread, realistically it only diverts from hate towards their own government for failing to protect critical infrastructure, and onto Ukrainian people who went out of their way to ruin someone’s day. Realistically, the economic damage is like wasting 10 minutes of a few people who will drive to an empty station, find none, then go to another station. And maybe like an hour of site admins time to ban and clear those trolls out, which I’m pretty sure they already did. And then those annoyed few will open the news and see a written confession from those trolls that they will do absolutely anything to ruin any random russian’s day, just because, and cheers from clueless folk in the comments below. Do you think seeing this would rile those russians against Putin, or make them support him even more?

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                    I mean as a parallel situation, Iran closing the straight and raising gas prices for me certainly didn’t make me back Trump or dislike Iran more. I blame Trump for that. I think any reasonable person can see that a country who’s being invaded doing whatever they can to fuck with the invader is the invader’s fault. Maybe not everything will be totally effective but smaller/weaker nations have to get their shots in however they can.