It is not . It is imperialist alliance that was created to fight ussr imperialism and later russia imperialism. Hamas has nothing to do with europe defense. Israel also collaborated with russia but it get a pass for it by Nato. Nato was had a big role in destroying Lybia so agqin nothing about defending europe, canada and the usa
It doesn’t change the fact that Nato was involved and was the one dropping the bombs. The whole international community especially those with Nato power are responsible
Yup, it is though as if all NATO members are on the same page with regards to Israel. Spain, Turkey and Italy do not support Israel and yet are in NATO. It’s the usual Russian talking point to speak of NATO as if the latter is one homogeneous group that thinks as one, when in reality each members operate autonomously with their own interest.
OP is sowing discord on NATO with the ridiculous title post, which is what Russia is doing and wants to happen. They captured Washington after all with Trump being in office. No matter, Russia will fall anyway after the war in Ukraine, and so is USA because of Trump. Who’d come out on top is China after Ukraine and Trump, but Beijing will have Kremlin firmly under its thumb.
Nato is not responsible for israel. They are a deterrent for countries like russia to invade member countries. And yeah they are pretty shit, and lots of shitty members, but it has nothing to do with this. The only one attacking nato constantly is russia cause they can’t invade all the countries they want now, like finland. That’s why I also assume anyone wording thing like nato-backed israel is a russian troll.
I am now convinced it is the fault of Russia that people believe NATO is providing Israel with the weapons and funding to commit genocide against Palestinians.
It cannot be that NATO is actually funding Israel, supplying it with weapons and even using the entire NATO logistical supply chain to do so.
As a US citizen, I can tell you the US is a mess right now.
Projecting our recent filth on every one of our allies is intellectually dishonest behavior.
The same can be said for the others. There’s a seriously concerning paradigm shift taking place where democracy and decency is under attack.
When the nations outside of NATO are perfect, then let’s talk.
That said, Israel is straight up a serious fucking problem. The genocides they are taking part in are fucking awful. That needs to be dealt with. That nation shouldn’t have allies right now, and it’s placed massive tension on NATO’s members that openly oppose the actions.
The kernel of truth to the propaganda statement starting with “NATO-equipped soldier…” is that Israel’s military is heavily funded colonial project, supported primarily by the US.
I live in Canada and the Liberals here have also given material aid to the Gaza occupation.
Israel uses the NATO supply chain to bypass weapons restrictions from host many countries. For example The Netherlands is also using the NATO supply chain to send their F35 parts to Israel using the same loophole of giving it to the US which can then send it to Israel.
Many of the weapons transport flights for Israel are also done through NATO bases.
Well, the United States, and most of Europe, many of whom are NATO members, have backed Israel to the hilt for most of its history, and been its primary benefactors.
Not sure why you’re playing dumb here, when there’s a fucking crime against humanity on your screen right now.
What makes this soldier “NATO backed”?
Some russian talking point I guess.
It does get weaponized by pro russia but it is still a fact. Israel and nato are allies
NATO is a defensive alliance
The one which invaded Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, and is now bombing Iran?
And spare me the nonsense https://www.politico.eu/article/nato-mark-rutte-italy-us-bases-iran-war/
What’s that to do with NATO precisely?
Take a moment to pause and think why the head of NATO is saying that the US used NATO bases and NATO supply chain.
Or maybe this will help
He didn’t. He said they used Italian bases…
Italian bases. Which are part of? …
It is not . It is imperialist alliance that was created to fight ussr imperialism and later russia imperialism. Hamas has nothing to do with europe defense. Israel also collaborated with russia but it get a pass for it by Nato. Nato was had a big role in destroying Lybia so agqin nothing about defending europe, canada and the usa
Care to cite when NATO was active in lybia? Not a bunch of NATOember states, but the NATO alliance acting under the NATO banner in libya
Nato itself admit it
https://www.nato.int/en/what-we-do/operations-and-missions/nato-and-libya-february-october-2011
Under UN orders enforced and embargo and no fly zone.
It doesn’t change the fact that Nato was involved and was the one dropping the bombs. The whole international community especially those with Nato power are responsible
Yup, it is though as if all NATO members are on the same page with regards to Israel. Spain, Turkey and Italy do not support Israel and yet are in NATO. It’s the usual Russian talking point to speak of NATO as if the latter is one homogeneous group that thinks as one, when in reality each members operate autonomously with their own interest.
OP is sowing discord on NATO with the ridiculous title post, which is what Russia is doing and wants to happen. They captured Washington after all with Trump being in office. No matter, Russia will fall anyway after the war in Ukraine, and so is USA because of Trump. Who’d come out on top is China after Ukraine and Trump, but Beijing will have Kremlin firmly under its thumb.
Its really not. Nato is shit
It’s not a russian talking point to make nato the boogeyman every chance it gets?
How would one criticize nato with that mindset?
Or is critique off the table for daddy nato in your fascist utopia?
Nato is shit with or without russia, but keep sticking your head in the sand
Nato is not responsible for israel. They are a deterrent for countries like russia to invade member countries. And yeah they are pretty shit, and lots of shitty members, but it has nothing to do with this. The only one attacking nato constantly is russia cause they can’t invade all the countries they want now, like finland. That’s why I also assume anyone wording thing like nato-backed israel is a russian troll.
Nato as an ally of israel with intrligence sharing is responsible
It’s not a nato talking point to make russia the boogeyman every chance it gets?
It’s not no. Russia is actually invading countries and undermining democracies. But thank you for confirming you’re a russian puppet.
Same as the usa and nato
Are you calling Israel a democracy?
Israel is just as evil as russia.
Israel’s allies too
Is Russia just as evil as the USA too?
This isn’t about Israel. YOU made this about NATO.
Why?
No this is about NATO https://lemmy.world/post/49097463/24622896
No, it’s the truth. Russia objectively sucks, and it’s always objectively sucked.
And nato too
Thank you for your incredibly insightful comment.
I am now convinced it is the fault of Russia that people believe NATO is providing Israel with the weapons and funding to commit genocide against Palestinians.
It cannot be that NATO is actually funding Israel, supplying it with weapons and even using the entire NATO logistical supply chain to do so.
IDF is backed by the US, the UK, and Germany, three of the biggest NATO members.
It’s a standard kernel-of-truth propaganda framing.
As a US citizen, I can tell you the US is a mess right now.
Projecting our recent filth on every one of our allies is intellectually dishonest behavior.
The same can be said for the others. There’s a seriously concerning paradigm shift taking place where democracy and decency is under attack.
When the nations outside of NATO are perfect, then let’s talk.
That said, Israel is straight up a serious fucking problem. The genocides they are taking part in are fucking awful. That needs to be dealt with. That nation shouldn’t have allies right now, and it’s placed massive tension on NATO’s members that openly oppose the actions.
The kernel of truth to the propaganda statement starting with “NATO-equipped soldier…” is that Israel’s military is heavily funded colonial project, supported primarily by the US.
I live in Canada and the Liberals here have also given material aid to the Gaza occupation.
You can add Canada, we have a loophole that equipment goes through the US first.
Israel uses the NATO supply chain to bypass weapons restrictions from host many countries. For example The Netherlands is also using the NATO supply chain to send their F35 parts to Israel using the same loophole of giving it to the US which can then send it to Israel.
Many of the weapons transport flights for Israel are also done through NATO bases.
At least in our case the US is the only country we sell weapons to that is allowed to resell them to countries we block.
Our current government voted down a proposal to close this loophole.
That’s 1000% true. Never said it wasnt
🤜🏻🤛🏻
You say “kernel of truth” but admit it is basically the whole truth.
That’s the whole game isn’t it, neither of us think it’s actually true.
I call it a “kernel of truth”, you call it “basically the whole truth”. Same same.
Both of us know Israel receives almost all of their their weapons from NATO countries through the NATO supply chain but one of us has to lie about it.
Well, the United States, and most of Europe, many of whom are NATO members, have backed Israel to the hilt for most of its history, and been its primary benefactors.
Not sure why you’re playing dumb here, when there’s a fucking crime against humanity on your screen right now.
Iarael being sbig ally of Nato. Nato literslly have ststments about hamas as if hamas was a dsnger to Europe
https://foreignassistance.gov/cd/israel/
https://palestina-komitee.nl/natos-obscure-relations-with-israel/
Ok, so I guess every Canadian military operation is “IDF backed”? By this logic
Does the IDF give Canada free weapons?