If you don’t like the tip economy, then don’t participate in it by avoiding restaurants that underpay their employees. But don’t take it out on the employee, they’re already the victim, and the restaurant owner doesn’t care about your protest.
If anything, tip your server in cash, then run out on the bill.
The thing is, lots of tipped workers also fight being paid a living wage because they make way more money off tips than they otherwise would at a job with similar qualifications. If a server is only working 6 tables in an hour and averages only 5 dollars a table in tips, that’s $30 an hour. There’s no way that if tips were eliminated that restaurants would bump salaries that much.
They could still collect tips, nobody is stopping that. They would just have to be paid a normal minimum wage as well. There is no reason that restaurant owners should be given the only exception in paying a minimum wage. Why should they be the only industry that forces the customer to directly pay their wages?
Maybe we should do that with cops, or politicians. They get $2 an hour, and then get tips FROM THE CITIZENS, when they do their jobs correctly, and the Citizens are moved to show their appreciation. I suspect we’d see cops and politicians behave much better.
People who are over worked and underpaid were convinced their employer couldn’t be trusted to pay them a proper wage isn’t the successful argument you think it is
Shout-out to w3dd1e@lemmy.zip for commenting the following AS ONE OF YOUR OWN BUT WITH A FUNCTIONING BRAIN:
”The cash registers are ringing, the beer is flowing and the tables are full.
I live in KC. The restaurants are not full. I’ve seen article after article about how lodging reservations were low before the tournament and now that it’s started, no one is filling restaurants."
I don’t see how is Europeans stiffing you on a tip is immoral
You guys are seriously confused if you think you can guilt trip people into believing they are in the wrong. I had a long discussion on this exact topic before and really no arguments were presented to prove otherwise so come on let’s go for round two
I say: it is wrong to expect people from a completely opposite mindset, culture and background to know that slavery should be supported with their contributions. I think it’s fucked up you guys can only whine about a few missed dollars when there is so much going on that is affecting our lives over here that you idiots had a direct influence on. Let talk oil prices and ram prices, you think I would blaim you personally for that too? I think it’s time to do that even if I know it’s morally wrong. Because, in the words of Louis Rossman: I will hold you to the standards you hold me.
So tell me again how my argument is not that good. Fuck you.
a few missed dollars here can be the difference between rent and homelessness. and i assure you things are getting increasingly brutal for anyone in this country who needs a home, food, medical care.
a random server at the chain restaurant (patronized by people privileged enough to travel internationally to see sports games!) is NOT responsible for the strait of hormuz or the AI bubble!
Shout-out to w3dd1e@lemmy.zip for commenting the following AS ONE OF YOUR OWN BUT WITH A FUNCTIONING BRAIN:
”The cash registers are ringing, the beer is flowing and the tables are full.
I live in KC. The restaurants are not full. I’ve seen article after article about how lodging reservations were low before the tournament and now that it’s started, no one is filling restaurants."
Shout-out to w3dd1e@lemmy.zip for commenting the following AS ONE OF YOUR OWN BUT WITH A FUNCTIONING BRAIN:
”The cash registers are ringing, the beer is flowing and the tables are full.
I live in KC. The restaurants are not full. I’ve seen article after article about how lodging reservations were low before the tournament and now that it’s started, no one is filling restaurants."
If you have that big of a problem, why come to the US and support it with your tourist dollars? You’re able to afford to come here during the hardship you describe, and yet you still complain that you’re expected to make up for the discounted service you received from someone experiencing worse hardship than you. You are scum.
Are you this stupid? How am I not interacting with your culture the world couldn’t ignore even if it tries. Pax americana cannot end soon enough but untill then I would challenge you to ask me any obscure question about American culture and I would bet I know everything by heart. We have eyes and ears over here you know.
In fact, my native language isn’t English, that would be a hint that interacting is actively ongoing. Acutely. As of right now.
What about you? Do you know to interact with other cultures at all? Oh wait, probably not.
Good luck with your gen a and gen b, you’re gonna be in for a wild ride. Over here that problem is less prevalent, because thank fuck I’m not one of you mongoloid Americans
“change your laws” you say to the below minimum wage worker as you don’t pay for the service you received. I don’t remember voting to rely on the generosity of assholes to pay my rent. Server’s in most restaurants barely scrape by, it’s incredibly rare for them to “make bank”. And before you say “work somewhere else” take a look at the current job market and see who’s actually hiring.
Correct. Not every server is a bartender in a local place that gets a tip-out on top of their tips from reasonable people. Some are servers in a chain restaurants that serve the least grateful, understanding, and intelligent people around. I mean, I had a lady complain that her medium steak had pink in it. It’s not the server’s fault if the customer is a moron.
you think you’re the only country with an underprivileged class that had to fight for themselves? (or at least want to… americans don’t even get to the “wanting to” stage)
Where did I even imply that? The conversation is about the situation in America, specifically. Do you respond to “Black Lives Matter” with “All Lives Matter”?
Get a proper job? Leave? Demand fair compensation by including gratuity in the sales price instead of allowing modern day slavery? Complacency with a system like that is damning
Shout-out to w3dd1e@lemmy.zip for commenting the following AS ONE OF YOUR OWN BUT WITH A FUNCTIONING BRAIN:
”The cash registers are ringing, the beer is flowing and the tables are full.
I live in KC. The restaurants are not full. I’ve seen article after article about how lodging reservations were low before the tournament and now that it’s started, no one is filling restaurants."
If you don’t like the tip economy, then don’t participate in it by avoiding restaurants that underpay their employees. But don’t take it out on the employee, they’re already the victim, and the restaurant owner doesn’t care about your protest.
If anything, tip your server in cash, then run out on the bill.
The thing is, lots of tipped workers also fight being paid a living wage because they make way more money off tips than they otherwise would at a job with similar qualifications. If a server is only working 6 tables in an hour and averages only 5 dollars a table in tips, that’s $30 an hour. There’s no way that if tips were eliminated that restaurants would bump salaries that much.
They could still collect tips, nobody is stopping that. They would just have to be paid a normal minimum wage as well. There is no reason that restaurant owners should be given the only exception in paying a minimum wage. Why should they be the only industry that forces the customer to directly pay their wages?
Maybe we should do that with cops, or politicians. They get $2 an hour, and then get tips FROM THE CITIZENS, when they do their jobs correctly, and the Citizens are moved to show their appreciation. I suspect we’d see cops and politicians behave much better.
The law says: nope.
Change your laws. Stop whining. Servers voted to keep the tip system because they make bank. Don’t complain.
People who are over worked and underpaid were convinced their employer couldn’t be trusted to pay them a proper wage isn’t the successful argument you think it is
https://sh.itjust.works/post/62495507
What about that?
Or this comment chain on this exact topic https://sh.itjust.works/post/62128604
Or even better, something that is just typical of you fucks, a NYpost piece is triggering this discussion:
https://nypost.com/2026/06/20/us-news/world-cup-tourists-arent-leaving-tips-and-nyc-restaurants-are-fighting-back/
Whereas, and don’t mind me laughing at your ignorance, it turns out that:
https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article316182333.html
Shout-out to w3dd1e@lemmy.zip for commenting the following AS ONE OF YOUR OWN BUT WITH A FUNCTIONING BRAIN:
”The cash registers are ringing, the beer is flowing and the tables are full.
I live in KC. The restaurants are not full. I’ve seen article after article about how lodging reservations were low before the tournament and now that it’s started, no one is filling restaurants."
? What
I don’t see how is Europeans stiffing you on a tip is immoral
You guys are seriously confused if you think you can guilt trip people into believing they are in the wrong. I had a long discussion on this exact topic before and really no arguments were presented to prove otherwise so come on let’s go for round two
I say: it is wrong to expect people from a completely opposite mindset, culture and background to know that slavery should be supported with their contributions. I think it’s fucked up you guys can only whine about a few missed dollars when there is so much going on that is affecting our lives over here that you idiots had a direct influence on. Let talk oil prices and ram prices, you think I would blaim you personally for that too? I think it’s time to do that even if I know it’s morally wrong. Because, in the words of Louis Rossman: I will hold you to the standards you hold me.
So tell me again how my argument is not that good. Fuck you.
a few missed dollars here can be the difference between rent and homelessness. and i assure you things are getting increasingly brutal for anyone in this country who needs a home, food, medical care.
a random server at the chain restaurant (patronized by people privileged enough to travel internationally to see sports games!) is NOT responsible for the strait of hormuz or the AI bubble!
Then how is one missed tip responsible for homelessness and not your own voting choices
https://sh.itjust.works/post/62495507
What about that?
Or this comment chain on this exact topic https://sh.itjust.works/post/62128604
Or even better, something that is just typical of you fucks, a NYpost piece is triggering this discussion:
https://nypost.com/2026/06/20/us-news/world-cup-tourists-arent-leaving-tips-and-nyc-restaurants-are-fighting-back/
Whereas, and don’t mind me laughing at your ignorance, it turns out that:
https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article316182333.html
Shout-out to w3dd1e@lemmy.zip for commenting the following AS ONE OF YOUR OWN BUT WITH A FUNCTIONING BRAIN:
”The cash registers are ringing, the beer is flowing and the tables are full.
I live in KC. The restaurants are not full. I’ve seen article after article about how lodging reservations were low before the tournament and now that it’s started, no one is filling restaurants."
Traveling to a fascist occupied country stiffing low wage workers while telling them to get a better job. You can’t be serious.
Yes I am. Go to the Capitol en masse instead of meekly accepting your fates you COWARDS
https://sh.itjust.works/post/62495507
What about that?
Or this comment chain on this exact topic https://sh.itjust.works/post/62128604
Or even better, something that is just typical of you fucks, a NYpost piece is triggering this discussion:
https://nypost.com/2026/06/20/us-news/world-cup-tourists-arent-leaving-tips-and-nyc-restaurants-are-fighting-back/
Whereas, and don’t mind me laughing at your ignorance, it turns out that:
https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article316182333.html
Shout-out to w3dd1e@lemmy.zip for commenting the following AS ONE OF YOUR OWN BUT WITH A FUNCTIONING BRAIN:
”The cash registers are ringing, the beer is flowing and the tables are full.
I live in KC. The restaurants are not full. I’ve seen article after article about how lodging reservations were low before the tournament and now that it’s started, no one is filling restaurants."
If you have that big of a problem, why come to the US and support it with your tourist dollars? You’re able to afford to come here during the hardship you describe, and yet you still complain that you’re expected to make up for the discounted service you received from someone experiencing worse hardship than you. You are scum.
https://sh.itjust.works/post/62495507
What about your own?
Fuck you you’re scum. I will never travel to the US fuck that. As far as I am seeing you guys are scrambling to find ways to get out.
I have a problem with your general attitudes. More money good yes. Suck it
So you’re bitching about an aspect of another culture that you don’t even interact with and don’t intend to? That’s pathetic, find a better hobby.
Are you this stupid? How am I not interacting with your culture the world couldn’t ignore even if it tries. Pax americana cannot end soon enough but untill then I would challenge you to ask me any obscure question about American culture and I would bet I know everything by heart. We have eyes and ears over here you know.
In fact, my native language isn’t English, that would be a hint that interacting is actively ongoing. Acutely. As of right now.
What about you? Do you know to interact with other cultures at all? Oh wait, probably not.
Good luck with your gen a and gen b, you’re gonna be in for a wild ride. Over here that problem is less prevalent, because thank fuck I’m not one of you mongoloid Americans
Ugly European
Nazi lover
“change your laws” you say to the below minimum wage worker as you don’t pay for the service you received. I don’t remember voting to rely on the generosity of assholes to pay my rent. Server’s in most restaurants barely scrape by, it’s incredibly rare for them to “make bank”. And before you say “work somewhere else” take a look at the current job market and see who’s actually hiring.
Correct. Not every server is a bartender in a local place that gets a tip-out on top of their tips from reasonable people. Some are servers in a chain restaurants that serve the least grateful, understanding, and intelligent people around. I mean, I had a lady complain that her medium steak had pink in it. It’s not the server’s fault if the customer is a moron.
you think you’re the only country with an underprivileged class that had to fight for themselves? (or at least want to… americans don’t even get to the “wanting to” stage)
Where did I even imply that? The conversation is about the situation in America, specifically. Do you respond to “Black Lives Matter” with “All Lives Matter”?
Get a proper job? Leave? Demand fair compensation by including gratuity in the sales price instead of allowing modern day slavery? Complacency with a system like that is damning
Learn to read
What the hell does that mean, your arguments are stupid.
https://sh.itjust.works/post/62495507
What about that?
Or this comment chain on this exact topic https://sh.itjust.works/post/62128604
Or even better, something that is just typical of you fucks, a NYpost piece is triggering this discussion:
https://nypost.com/2026/06/20/us-news/world-cup-tourists-arent-leaving-tips-and-nyc-restaurants-are-fighting-back/
Whereas, and don’t mind me laughing at your ignorance, it turns out that:
https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article316182333.html
Shout-out to w3dd1e@lemmy.zip for commenting the following AS ONE OF YOUR OWN BUT WITH A FUNCTIONING BRAIN:
”The cash registers are ringing, the beer is flowing and the tables are full.
I live in KC. The restaurants are not full. I’ve seen article after article about how lodging reservations were low before the tournament and now that it’s started, no one is filling restaurants."
The only correct take. Everything else is virtue signalling.