It’s rough seeing how smug europeans are about american fascism when every time you look at european news you see their own fascist splinter groups gaining more political traction with none of them really doing anything about it. Maybe worry about yourselves before worrying about us, right?
You are not wrong, but fucking all american shit comes here with a 10 year delay for some reason (obesity, economic crisis, far right/proto fascism, anti vax, neoliberalism, the list goes on and on and on) so maybe that’s why people like to have a go at your country when it looks like you’re beating up yourselves while making it a spectacle.
Unfortunately, the US regularly intervenes in foreign countries’ affairs, so it’s not possible and geopolitically pretty stupid to not worry about the US. You can worry about both, though.
The issue is they aren’t. They just complain about the US and ignore their own country moving down that path. When they have the best ability to prevent it from getting bad early.
That dude you are replying to, is the exact top of the bell curve when it comes to American intellect. He heard/read some things, and because he likes what he hears, he parrots it. He has no logic, he has no deeper understanding. He sees neither the tactical short term problems, nor the strategic long term effects. He is blissfully ignorant. A happy pig in his slop.
His ignorance is equal to your knowledge, in his eyes.
Yeah. It’s interesting they all working together (despite being nationalistic) sending each other funds, and they all have a very positive view towards Russia.
I’m surprised there people who believe it is all organic.
About a decade ago, Steve Bannon very overtly came to Europe with money from the Koch Foundation openly to “Fund Far-Right parties”.
In many places in Europe the rise of the Far-Right happened after that.
Similarly, in Britain it turned out that most of the social media manipulation in favor of Leave was done by Cambridge Analitica, a British company which was being paid to do it by wealthy Americans.
America actively funds the Far-Right in Europe, especially the anti-EU crowd since EU member nations were a lot easier to push around by America and American interests individually, than they are grouped into the EU (even if parts of the EU, such as the EU Commission, have pretty much sold themselves out to large American companies)
They’re doing the same in Australia right now, as well. It’s a full scale assault too. We now have a fucking CPAC, we’re being inundated with MAGA style bots and all this loony, loopy, violent, degenerate leftie socialist shit.
Our politics has gone from being something we thought about and did rationally every few years to being saturated and bludgeoned with this tribal crap every day.
That’s why Murdoch went there…he wasn’t able to do here or in the UK what he could do there, because the fertile ground for it existed.
The fact remains, the US is going to have to find something to rally around to improve their society, even if it isn’t this. They are where they are because they refuse to do anything about their situation, from voting, right through to now probably having to go into peaceful shutdown. They’ll find every excuse around it and expect the rest of us to understand and sympathise, like having to tip because the workers depend on it. It’s like being held hostage in a way; you know the worker will suffer if we don’t pay the tip.
Your country started that. And because your double agent of a president is Putin’s pawn, guess what? Putin received leeway to muddy Europe’s water too, with an unstoppable hybrid war. Every news article, every forum, every community I used to visit is now filled with bots that, as soon as politics is mentioned, chimes in about the “rapist immigrants that are stealing your job” and how “Europe is a failed continent that’ll turn your kids trans/gay”.
It’s hilarious, isn’t it?
US and Russia shit on ME and Africa, which causes a huge wave of political and war refugees/economic immigrants to run from the horrors that YOUR country is responsible for.
And instead of us trying to think how to handle the piece of shit to the East, and how to protect our borders from illegal immigration, we have an ex-ally to the West, who is eyeing sovereign European territory.
And you have the audacity to call us smug? No, we are just familiar with history and evil men in power.
Yeah, you might be right. Team world police. Look how upvoted the American comment is, but as soon as you point out that they’ve been bombing brown people for the past 60 years, they get cunty
It’s rough seeing how smug europeans are about american fascism when every time you look at european news you see their own fascist splinter groups gaining more political traction with none of them really doing anything about it. Maybe worry about yourselves before worrying about us, right?
You are not wrong, but fucking all american shit comes here with a 10 year delay for some reason (obesity, economic crisis, far right/proto fascism, anti vax, neoliberalism, the list goes on and on and on) so maybe that’s why people like to have a go at your country when it looks like you’re beating up yourselves while making it a spectacle.
I hope you’ll finally figure it out, good luck!
So you should see it coming and stop it.
Unfortunately, the US regularly intervenes in foreign countries’ affairs, so it’s not possible and geopolitically pretty stupid to not worry about the US. You can worry about both, though.
The issue is they aren’t. They just complain about the US and ignore their own country moving down that path. When they have the best ability to prevent it from getting bad early.
You know that almost all far right parties in Europe get money from the MAGAts, right?
And MAGAts got their money from far right Europeans. What’s your point?
Uhhuh sure buddy. Lets pretend its spooky secretive europeans funding the american fascism parties.
That dude you are replying to, is the exact top of the bell curve when it comes to American intellect. He heard/read some things, and because he likes what he hears, he parrots it. He has no logic, he has no deeper understanding. He sees neither the tactical short term problems, nor the strategic long term effects. He is blissfully ignorant. A happy pig in his slop.
His ignorance is equal to your knowledge, in his eyes.
Yeah. It’s interesting they all working together (despite being nationalistic) sending each other funds, and they all have a very positive view towards Russia.
I’m surprised there people who believe it is all organic.
About a decade ago, Steve Bannon very overtly came to Europe with money from the Koch Foundation openly to “Fund Far-Right parties”.
In many places in Europe the rise of the Far-Right happened after that.
Similarly, in Britain it turned out that most of the social media manipulation in favor of Leave was done by Cambridge Analitica, a British company which was being paid to do it by wealthy Americans.
America actively funds the Far-Right in Europe, especially the anti-EU crowd since EU member nations were a lot easier to push around by America and American interests individually, than they are grouped into the EU (even if parts of the EU, such as the EU Commission, have pretty much sold themselves out to large American companies)
They’re doing the same in Australia right now, as well. It’s a full scale assault too. We now have a fucking CPAC, we’re being inundated with MAGA style bots and all this loony, loopy, violent, degenerate leftie socialist shit.
Our politics has gone from being something we thought about and did rationally every few years to being saturated and bludgeoned with this tribal crap every day.
That’s why Murdoch went there…he wasn’t able to do here or in the UK what he could do there, because the fertile ground for it existed.
The fact remains, the US is going to have to find something to rally around to improve their society, even if it isn’t this. They are where they are because they refuse to do anything about their situation, from voting, right through to now probably having to go into peaceful shutdown. They’ll find every excuse around it and expect the rest of us to understand and sympathise, like having to tip because the workers depend on it. It’s like being held hostage in a way; you know the worker will suffer if we don’t pay the tip.
Funded by not Americans.
No being a fucking billionaire South African who can go wherever he wants isn’t an American. There’s multiple of those people, even!
Yeah they love pointing at European fascism but being remarkably blind at drawing the connections themselves.
Your country started that. And because your double agent of a president is Putin’s pawn, guess what? Putin received leeway to muddy Europe’s water too, with an unstoppable hybrid war. Every news article, every forum, every community I used to visit is now filled with bots that, as soon as politics is mentioned, chimes in about the “rapist immigrants that are stealing your job” and how “Europe is a failed continent that’ll turn your kids trans/gay”.
It’s hilarious, isn’t it? US and Russia shit on ME and Africa, which causes a huge wave of political and war refugees/economic immigrants to run from the horrors that YOUR country is responsible for.
And instead of us trying to think how to handle the piece of shit to the East, and how to protect our borders from illegal immigration, we have an ex-ally to the West, who is eyeing sovereign European territory.
And you have the audacity to call us smug? No, we are just familiar with history and evil men in power.
And so you take it out on waiters?
I don’t.
This guy is right on the money btw. You may not like it, but it be like it do.
Truth is often uncomfortable
Europe invented fascism I don’t care :)
Now, the standard American reply. A snide remark.
Your ignorance is astounding.
You can blame others for your problems all you want, won’t change reality.
Stop with this nonsense Trump is a continuation of a long tradition of American imperialism not a “Russian puppet”.
Yeah, you might be right. Team world police. Look how upvoted the American comment is, but as soon as you point out that they’ve been bombing brown people for the past 60 years, they get cunty
You act like we don’t get help from our European friends in that. Yall are way, way more racist.
Right, yeah. Europe abolished slavery only recently, like 1968 I think. So you might have a point.
Oh wait thats you