• Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    6 days ago

    we’ve seen no kings 1 & 2 change diddly squat, so obviously we’ll do the same thing a third time with the high hopes that nothing will change too!

    Guy that is attending the useless no kings protest

    You want actual change? Look at Europe on how to protest. I’m sorry for you Americans, but you got yourself in this, you gotta dig yourself out. Trump will NOT care about the o kings protest, and it’ll fade from the news within two days tops. It. Is. Not. Enough.

    Protest 24/7 for months on end until the fucker is gone

    Have strikes everywhere, indeed, because that it the only way you’ll get his attention and get this administration to understand that it’s over

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      It’s very easy to say but you need to understand there are no labor protections in the US. Any protest during work hours result in termination.

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        Then get fired, all of you.

        A company can’t fire all their employees, just go all protest

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          They only have to fire a few and the rest will fall in line quickly. This is why retail workers don’t have unions.

          Everyone is stuck in the consumer/labor loop. One missed check is all it takes to send you to the poverty hole. Even more challenging if you have kids.

          I support general strike. But I understand why people aren’t ready to do it yet. Until starving is less scary than the alternative, it’s going to be hard for them to risk that.

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      Yes, let’s look at Europe.

      The USA is comparable to all of the EU in size, much larger than France, UK, Germany, etc. combined.

      Has all of the EU ever been able to organize? France is smaller than California, one US state out of 50.

      I’m sorry for you Europeans, but why do you keep supporting and enabling the USA? You continue to finance the very war machine that oppresses you (and us). Stop buying US products and stop using the US Dollar for international trade.

      Go on strike yourselves and boycott, you are the experts eh? But you won’t bother, you will continue to provide our government with billions while saying “pity that”… and then complain when the USAs boot is on your neck.

      Re people from the USA… MLK and peace only did so much. We need less peaceful MLK protest and more Black Panthers-style protesting. Peaceful protests are worthless alone

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        Has all of the EU ever been able to organize? France is smaller than California, one US state out of 50.

        No, but you can’t compare the EU to the US that way. We’re not EU citizens in our minds. We’re French, Germans, Polish etc. There’s very few cases where we have such a need to protest together. We don’t view ourselves as the EU people (most of us at least). And yes there were protests here today too.

        And yeah the French basically invented protesting. Hardly a day goes by that some union isn’t on strike there :) They invented the yellow vests too.

        Go on strike yourselves and boycott, you are the experts eh?

        If you’re talking about the French then yes I would consider them the experts for sure 🤭

        Stop buying US products and stop using the US Dollar for international trade.

        This is in fact exactly what is happening here. It’s a slow start but big ships need time to turn. Once they’re turned however the momentum is great. There’s lots of websites with recommendations for EU alternatives, and lots of people and businesses are making plans. It’s a growing movement.

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        Stop buying US products (and using US services, I presume)

        That’s… why I’m here (on Lemmy instead of Reddit), using Tutanota instead of Gmail, Vivaldi instead of Edge/Chrome, Linux instead of Windows…

        But I understand your sentiment, and acknowledge I am not doing as much as I could.

        A better point might be that we might have better labor organizations and protections in place that we at least partially take for granted, that need to be built, fought for, or their lack compensated for before Europe-style movements are viable.

        And what better place to meet people near you who might be interested in organising and willing to put at least some time into it than the local Fuck This Government convention?

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      It’s not even about how you protest, it’s about what you use protests for. You can have the best protest ever, longest strike imaginable, whatever. If you don’t have the organisation to have coherent changes and then act upon them, nothing matters. No kings, huh? What if by a stroke of magic, Trump gets scared of your rally and tries to appease the public or whatever. What’s the terms? No kings. Well, he’s not a king, he’s the president. Problem solved, continue as you were.