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edit: i have little experience with the religious subject at hand, and so this should be taken with a healthy share of doubt. i express my gratitude to those who respond to clarify and communicate more accurate and complete information. :)
interestingly, alcohol (ethanol) is not exactly haram. i have seen many instances (primarily from chemstores/chemical suppliers) of ethyl alcohol marked as halal! this article on some malay government website looks to provide a brief overview of the topic. they also had a more lengthy article (doi:10.24191/sl.v18i1.24338) about the subject too, and halal certification services has this (doi:10.1016/j.tifs.2016.10.018) slightly harder to read but still intriguing review.
i am by no means experienced in this subject (if you are feel free to reply!) beyond reading the labels on chemicals and using it for cleaning. in short though i think the important thing for alcohol-containing substances to be halal is that you don’t consume any with too high an ethanol concentration, either if there’s the possibility of intoxication, or poisoning (considered attempted suicide and thus haram, going by the above sources). if its high concentration stuff used for cleaning or production but not in the final product, it can be acceptable, and so can very low concentrations even when consumed (the body would have to ingest so much that it would have other issues like low sodium prior to any intoxication).
remember, sharia law is much like any other form of law: it’s riddled with complexity, opaqueness, and tons of loopholes!
There’s differece of opinion with alcohol. One school of jurisprudence goes by the ruling that it’s the fermentation part that makes it haram, so synthetically made ethanol in a lab isn’t haram if it’s not used in levels that intoxicate, whereas another school says it’s the actual intoxicating property of the chemical that’s haram so you can’t use it unless it’s for necessary medical reasons and there’s no alternative. I don’t know what the other two schools say.
If memory serves me well, the drinking of alcohol is also forbidden.
I knew a guy who was muslim.
He was an opiates addict but somehow alcohol was unallowed.
This is super common in Utah as well. Illicit drugs/alcohol are bad, but a doctor prescribes opiates so that’s okay! Really hits women hard too since the only purpose you have is as a baby/homemaker, so getting high on prescription drugs is a fun hometime activity, just like it was back in the 50s!
I was a stay at home father for ten years and getting high was never something that I found atractive.
I read a lot, cooked extremely complex dishes, learned fermentation, bread making, several DIY, etc.
Why drugs?
Alcohol is haram but the Pride flag is too much? Pal, when you’re five shots in your sexuality is the least of your worries.
/r/thatsthejoke
*c/
fair enough, not sure we have a community for that or not 🤔
EDIT: a quick search reveals there is no such community at least that my instance has access to 👍
“I drink alcohol and fuck men, but I’m not gay. Keep that pork away from me”.
This seems to be the most popular attitude among muslim men
The pork thing seems a lot more ingrained than the alcohol thing. Wonder if it has something to do with trichinosis.
Probably because, even if you want to eat meat, it’s easy go for alternatives. When it comes to alcohol, no easy alternative can be used.
There are plenty of alternatives to alcohol that can be used to get high. People just lack imagination.
