You realize we’ve been having large protests, right? For example, the city I live in is not even one of the top 10 largest cities in the US, but it has had multiple anti-Trump protests within the last year with a turnout of over 50k people. There were also other cities within 130 km of mine that had crowds with over 10k people.
The turnout in Tirana is similar in scale, but when you account for how small of a country Albania is and the fact that the entire country can easily travel to the capital to protest, the Albanian turnout is actually far less. The farthest anyone has to travel in Albania to reach the capital is 300 km. You don’t even need a car. You can take an 8 hour bus ride.
In comparison, if I wanted to go to the US capital to protest, it is over 2500km away. That’s like traveling from Tirana to Estonia, but without the option of easy public transportation. Not only that, but US politicians live in highly secure areas far away from where the public can reach. They never have to face us if they don’t want to. No politicians even go to the building of my state capital except for a single 5 month period every two years. So the last several protests in my state capital have been people protesting at an empty building. Look dude, just because the media doesn’t report stuff doesn’t mean people aren’t protesting. But a protest is going to be a lot more effective when you live in a tiny country with an easy way to travel.
Can the average person in your country afford to potentially lose their job while simultaneously being disqualified from unemployment benefits? My current job has 0 days PTO, and yes, I would be fired and disqualified from unemployment benefits. Can the average person in your country spend over $620 per person to fly to Washington DC? Yes, it costs that much for me. And going by bus would be even more expensive and take me over a week in travel time round trip. Can the average person in your country afford to spend over $500 in hotel costs even when splitting a room? If not, please kindly shut the fuck up. Me and many other people have been protesting regularly. But it’s not possible for most of us, me included, to protest where the politicians are. Not to mention, the politicians don’t care in the least. They mock us regularly. It’s difficult to coordinate anything across a country that is as massive as the US, but we’re at least trying.
Are these protest in your city also happening exclusively on weekends? if so, sorry but that’s just not good enough. Yes, I understand it would be harder on week days but the point is to cause economic disruption; it should be clear by now the Pedophile Regime could not care less about the people’s opinion
The turnout in Tirana is similar in scale …
You do realize they are protesting the presence of oligarchs and not the end of their democracy, civil rights, legal protections, etc?
Also, enough with the “they can travel to the capital” you can fucking protest anywhere… didn’t you just tell me you guys are protesting in your city? Do you live in Washington DC? No, you live 2500 Km away
Can the average person in your country afford to potentially lose their job while simultaneously being disqualified from unemployment benefits?
Actually yes, to an extent. Why? because we did not allow things to get this bad. Did your labour protections eroded overnight? was your voting diluted to nothing by gerrymandering and the electoral college overnight? NO, you allowed your own death by 1000 cuts.
So you rather wait until you are laid off, fired or simply turned into a slave before protesting any of the stuff that is going on in your country? Ok, that explains the complete lack of opposition. Best of luck taking anything back after you are completely destitute.
Very unfortunately for you, you have allowed the infection to run freely and fester… now it’s time for some real sacrifice in order to preserve what’s left and have a chance of recovery. Currently you are deciding not to lose the infected leg to amputation, you rather wait until full on sepsis when your only option would be to drop dead
Finally, I would buy some of what you are selling if you guys did the cheap, not costing your job things like leave Xitter/Meta/AI en masse but you are not doing that either
It’s easy for you to talk on the Internet from your armchair of job protections and privilege, where you’ve probably never had to resist anything in your life. Most people are 1-2 months from homelessness without an income. This isn’t a hypothetical situation. It’s a cold fact. And if you are homeless, your kids get taken away. Do you think people are able to protest more effectively in that kind of situation? Which single protest is going to make the immediate difference to bring about change.
And our labor protections were already eroded several generations before I was born. Almost nobody has union representation. It is illegal for a union to require members to pay membership fees. It is illegal for a union to require a company to hire only union members. It is illegal for a union to require its members to participate in collective bargaining. And it is illegal for unions to take action on anything not directly involving the company its members specifically work for, including general, solidarity, and political strikes. Furthermore, the executive branch can obtain injunctions to declare any strike illegal if it is ruled to be a threat to national health or safety. While there have been attempts as recent as this year, there hasn’t been a single successful general strike in the United States since the Taft–Hartley Act of 1947 passed.
And WE ARE protesting. There are people are protesting EVERY SINGLE DAY all over the country. But you will never see that on the news. Many other people and I have attended numerous protests when we are able to. Have you ever stood in 40+°C heat all day weakly holding a sign while trying not to black out from heat exhaustion at a protest? I have. What have you done? You might not live here, but you are affected by some US actions too. You have politicians too, which could be doing more for your people. Your rights could be slowly getting eroded away right now. And if there are any billionaires that exist in your country at all, I guarantee they are. It’s easy to talk shit, but the impactful thing is to stand in solidarity and do what you can from your side of the pond. There are a lot of things you need to be pushing for. Like what the people in Albania are doing right now. You are in a good place to be making a difference. You don’t have to live in fear of the stuff we’re dealing with. You don’t have to continually worry every single day about whether any of your friends are going to get murdered by ICE or a cop.
And please, almost nobody has used Twitter since it went to shit (I’ve never even had an account), only boomers have used Facebook for the past decade, and everyone is pissed about the AI stuff. You love to make generalizations. I get that you’re frustrated. What do you think the frustration is like here?
Your rights could be slowly getting eroded away right now. And if there are any billionaires that exist in your country at all, I guarantee they are. It’s easy to talk shit, but the impactful thing is to stand in solidarity and do what you can from your side of the pond.
They’re doing about as much as what Americans are doing to help themselves.
There’s definitely a rise of the far right happening all over that’s very alarming. One of the things that makes it scary is how low key all of it can be. It’s easy for people not to notice until all of the cards are in place, and then everyone is completely caught off guard. Like consider France - despite how frequent, powerful, and progressive all of the protests have always been in France, Le Pen got scary close to getting into actual power. All of the oligarchs have their tentacles spread throughout the planet. Albania is protesting stuff involving Jared Kushner. It’s really got me thinking that there’s some very specific things that need to happen in countries all over the world while there’s still time, otherwise they’ll inevitably turn into authoritarian hellholes. But right now, the cards aren’t in place for a lot of countries. What just happened in Hungary inspires hope.
But billionaires need to get taxed out of existence, large companies need to be broken up or nationalized, money needs to be kept out of politics in every way possible, and the world needs to move completely off of US based technology as well as fossil fuels. I know a lot of people are trying in Europe, and I hope that even if my country turns into a hellish nightmare, that it opens enough people’s eyes that they can at least save their own. Climate change is coming, and it’s going to cause civil unrest like we cannot even comprehend. Nobody anywhere is going to escape it unscarred. Hopefully some of us can at least make it. But that will require societies working as societies and leaving nobody behind, and everywhere is very far from that point.
wow, the victim complex is strong with this one… you are right, you are the real precious creature suffering, not the thousands being starved, tortured or slaughtered because of what your country is doing around the world
do us all a favour a take a nap, because when you are sleeping, the world stops and nothing else matters
On weekends, yes I know. And we all know the orange pedophile cares about those so deeply, he literally sent a video of himself shitting on all those protesters
It was almost forgivable when the us population voted that fat cunt in the first time. Yeah, ok, the obese orange buffoon was an idiot, but most of the evil shit wasn’t common knowledge.
However when they did it the second time it showed that -in general- the average american are either stupid, evil, or so complacent that they just don’t give a shit about anything or anybody until it affects themselves personally.
That kiddie fiddling tub of corrupt gonorrhoea and the rest of the corrupt disgusting family are fucking things up for the whole world now. All just to steal as money as they can and distract from the Epstein files.
But the US population didn’t vote for Trump either time. Both times, a minority of the population voted for him. Certain people need to be held accountable for the events that led up to that, and events that have happened since, and we need to get serious as a whole population about antifascist education. But the people who fight hardest against these events in the whole world, and certainly harder than any hypocritical Europeans (Who still allow all of their governments to remain economically and politically allied with us - Not a single euro government has yet rejected the role of vassal dog), are in fact also domestic Americans.
So when you say “they” in reference to Americans you need to be more specific about what you mean. Because some of us are being straight-up disappeared to South American torture prisons for our fight against that while all this keyboard warrior charlitan you’re replying to has to say about it is “Sure, on weekends”.
“But the US population didn’t vote for Trump either time.”
I’ve heard this one before. The us is either a democracy and the fat orange cunt is the president by that vote. Or he’s not and you guys should be up in arms protesting about it.
The rest of the world ain’t seeing many protests.
“Both times, a minority of the population voted for him.”
Don’t care. Donvict Drumpf is still in the Whitehouse fucking things up for the whole world with little or few large protests about it.
“Certain people need to be held accountable for the events that led up to that”,
Yes. But that will not happen. Ever.
If you guys are so complacent when a piece of scum shits all over your constitution. Rips down your Whitehouse. Builds a fucking MMA stadium on the front garden. And talks about being president for life then you’re not going to do fuck all about all the accomplises and enablers after he’s finally dead.
“and events that have happened since, and we need to get serious as a whole population about antifascist education.”
Again. Won’t happen. Too complacent.
“some of us are being straight-up disappeared to South American torture prisons f”
I know. I saw the news about it and I -stupidly- thought “oh wow, this is it. This is what they need to get things moving” but tumbleweeds happened instead. Then the Renee Good and Alex Pretti murders happened and I thought “this is it etc etc etc” , and more tumbleweeds.
"“Sure, on weekends…”
Isn’t that correct? If memory serves then the only meaningful protests after all this happened at weekends. And there were, what, two of them? Three?
The thing is the ‘keyboard warrior’ was correct. And, like me, is exasperated and annoyed by the average americans apparent lack of effort in all this.
Instead of downvoting, attacking, and alienating them then try agreeing and bringing your point of view in a gentler way.
The only solidarity we deserve after re-electing the orange fuck is a solid kick up the ass. This is on Americans to fix, and if we can’t fix it, the world doesn’t owe us shit.
No, I’m not into collective punishment. Maybe you voted for Trump, but I’ve been screaming against it this entire time. And I think you misunderstand solidarity, that isn’t collective either.
The citizens of other countries have their own lives to deal with, which are being made more complicated by the simple fact that screaming against it this entire time just was not enough.
They have no obligation to stand in solidarity with citizens of the country making their lives harder. This is not collective punishment, this is the predictable outcome of a series of events.
It’s like getting hit by an uninsured drunk driver: It may not be our fault, but it will be our responsibility to fix.
Albanians show up to protest! maybe Muricas can learn something here
You realize we’ve been having large protests, right? For example, the city I live in is not even one of the top 10 largest cities in the US, but it has had multiple anti-Trump protests within the last year with a turnout of over 50k people. There were also other cities within 130 km of mine that had crowds with over 10k people.
The turnout in Tirana is similar in scale, but when you account for how small of a country Albania is and the fact that the entire country can easily travel to the capital to protest, the Albanian turnout is actually far less. The farthest anyone has to travel in Albania to reach the capital is 300 km. You don’t even need a car. You can take an 8 hour bus ride.
In comparison, if I wanted to go to the US capital to protest, it is over 2500km away. That’s like traveling from Tirana to Estonia, but without the option of easy public transportation. Not only that, but US politicians live in highly secure areas far away from where the public can reach. They never have to face us if they don’t want to. No politicians even go to the building of my state capital except for a single 5 month period every two years. So the last several protests in my state capital have been people protesting at an empty building. Look dude, just because the media doesn’t report stuff doesn’t mean people aren’t protesting. But a protest is going to be a lot more effective when you live in a tiny country with an easy way to travel.
Can the average person in your country afford to potentially lose their job while simultaneously being disqualified from unemployment benefits? My current job has 0 days PTO, and yes, I would be fired and disqualified from unemployment benefits. Can the average person in your country spend over $620 per person to fly to Washington DC? Yes, it costs that much for me. And going by bus would be even more expensive and take me over a week in travel time round trip. Can the average person in your country afford to spend over $500 in hotel costs even when splitting a room? If not, please kindly shut the fuck up. Me and many other people have been protesting regularly. But it’s not possible for most of us, me included, to protest where the politicians are. Not to mention, the politicians don’t care in the least. They mock us regularly. It’s difficult to coordinate anything across a country that is as massive as the US, but we’re at least trying.
Are these protest in your city also happening exclusively on weekends? if so, sorry but that’s just not good enough. Yes, I understand it would be harder on week days but the point is to cause economic disruption; it should be clear by now the Pedophile Regime could not care less about the people’s opinion
You do realize they are protesting the presence of oligarchs and not the end of their democracy, civil rights, legal protections, etc?
Also, enough with the “they can travel to the capital” you can fucking protest anywhere… didn’t you just tell me you guys are protesting in your city? Do you live in Washington DC? No, you live 2500 Km away
Actually yes, to an extent. Why? because we did not allow things to get this bad. Did your labour protections eroded overnight? was your voting diluted to nothing by gerrymandering and the electoral college overnight? NO, you allowed your own death by 1000 cuts.
So you rather wait until you are laid off, fired or simply turned into a slave before protesting any of the stuff that is going on in your country? Ok, that explains the complete lack of opposition. Best of luck taking anything back after you are completely destitute.
Very unfortunately for you, you have allowed the infection to run freely and fester… now it’s time for some real sacrifice in order to preserve what’s left and have a chance of recovery. Currently you are deciding not to lose the infected leg to amputation, you rather wait until full on sepsis when your only option would be to drop dead
Finally, I would buy some of what you are selling if you guys did the cheap, not costing your job things like leave Xitter/Meta/AI en masse but you are not doing that either
It’s easy for you to talk on the Internet from your armchair of job protections and privilege, where you’ve probably never had to resist anything in your life. Most people are 1-2 months from homelessness without an income. This isn’t a hypothetical situation. It’s a cold fact. And if you are homeless, your kids get taken away. Do you think people are able to protest more effectively in that kind of situation? Which single protest is going to make the immediate difference to bring about change.
And our labor protections were already eroded several generations before I was born. Almost nobody has union representation. It is illegal for a union to require members to pay membership fees. It is illegal for a union to require a company to hire only union members. It is illegal for a union to require its members to participate in collective bargaining. And it is illegal for unions to take action on anything not directly involving the company its members specifically work for, including general, solidarity, and political strikes. Furthermore, the executive branch can obtain injunctions to declare any strike illegal if it is ruled to be a threat to national health or safety. While there have been attempts as recent as this year, there hasn’t been a single successful general strike in the United States since the Taft–Hartley Act of 1947 passed.
And WE ARE protesting. There are people are protesting EVERY SINGLE DAY all over the country. But you will never see that on the news. Many other people and I have attended numerous protests when we are able to. Have you ever stood in 40+°C heat all day weakly holding a sign while trying not to black out from heat exhaustion at a protest? I have. What have you done? You might not live here, but you are affected by some US actions too. You have politicians too, which could be doing more for your people. Your rights could be slowly getting eroded away right now. And if there are any billionaires that exist in your country at all, I guarantee they are. It’s easy to talk shit, but the impactful thing is to stand in solidarity and do what you can from your side of the pond. There are a lot of things you need to be pushing for. Like what the people in Albania are doing right now. You are in a good place to be making a difference. You don’t have to live in fear of the stuff we’re dealing with. You don’t have to continually worry every single day about whether any of your friends are going to get murdered by ICE or a cop.
And please, almost nobody has used Twitter since it went to shit (I’ve never even had an account), only boomers have used Facebook for the past decade, and everyone is pissed about the AI stuff. You love to make generalizations. I get that you’re frustrated. What do you think the frustration is like here?
They’re doing about as much as what Americans are doing to help themselves.
I do think there’s a lot of eyes opening now.
There’s definitely a rise of the far right happening all over that’s very alarming. One of the things that makes it scary is how low key all of it can be. It’s easy for people not to notice until all of the cards are in place, and then everyone is completely caught off guard. Like consider France - despite how frequent, powerful, and progressive all of the protests have always been in France, Le Pen got scary close to getting into actual power. All of the oligarchs have their tentacles spread throughout the planet. Albania is protesting stuff involving Jared Kushner. It’s really got me thinking that there’s some very specific things that need to happen in countries all over the world while there’s still time, otherwise they’ll inevitably turn into authoritarian hellholes. But right now, the cards aren’t in place for a lot of countries. What just happened in Hungary inspires hope.
But billionaires need to get taxed out of existence, large companies need to be broken up or nationalized, money needs to be kept out of politics in every way possible, and the world needs to move completely off of US based technology as well as fossil fuels. I know a lot of people are trying in Europe, and I hope that even if my country turns into a hellish nightmare, that it opens enough people’s eyes that they can at least save their own. Climate change is coming, and it’s going to cause civil unrest like we cannot even comprehend. Nobody anywhere is going to escape it unscarred. Hopefully some of us can at least make it. But that will require societies working as societies and leaving nobody behind, and everywhere is very far from that point.
wow, the victim complex is strong with this one… you are right, you are the real precious creature suffering, not the thousands being starved, tortured or slaughtered because of what your country is doing around the world
do us all a favour a take a nap, because when you are sleeping, the world stops and nothing else matters
And what country do you live in? What are you doing to help? You never answered.
Why does that matter at all?
because they’ll say something bad about my country and go “ha! see? your country is not perfect and therefore mine doesn’t evenhave to be good”
they argue like spoiled kids
Americans have been breaking records on protest turnout.
On weekends, yes I know. And we all know the orange pedophile cares about those so deeply, he literally sent a video of himself shitting on all those protesters
Yeah well, thanks for the spiritual support from overseas during the one time we need it the most. Solidarity.
You may have better luck with solidarity when you don’t elect a Pedo who has been shitting on the rest of the world… FOR A SECOND FUCKING TIME
You’ve been downvoted but I’m with you on this.
It was almost forgivable when the us population voted that fat cunt in the first time. Yeah, ok, the obese orange buffoon was an idiot, but most of the evil shit wasn’t common knowledge.
However when they did it the second time it showed that -in general- the average american are either stupid, evil, or so complacent that they just don’t give a shit about anything or anybody until it affects themselves personally.
That kiddie fiddling tub of corrupt gonorrhoea and the rest of the corrupt disgusting family are fucking things up for the whole world now. All just to steal as money as they can and distract from the Epstein files.
But the US population didn’t vote for Trump either time. Both times, a minority of the population voted for him. Certain people need to be held accountable for the events that led up to that, and events that have happened since, and we need to get serious as a whole population about antifascist education. But the people who fight hardest against these events in the whole world, and certainly harder than any hypocritical Europeans (Who still allow all of their governments to remain economically and politically allied with us - Not a single euro government has yet rejected the role of vassal dog), are in fact also domestic Americans.
So when you say “they” in reference to Americans you need to be more specific about what you mean. Because some of us are being straight-up disappeared to South American torture prisons for our fight against that while all this keyboard warrior charlitan you’re replying to has to say about it is “Sure, on weekends”.
“But the US population didn’t vote for Trump either time.”
I’ve heard this one before. The us is either a democracy and the fat orange cunt is the president by that vote. Or he’s not and you guys should be up in arms protesting about it.
The rest of the world ain’t seeing many protests.
“Both times, a minority of the population voted for him.”
Don’t care. Donvict Drumpf is still in the Whitehouse fucking things up for the whole world with little or few large protests about it.
“Certain people need to be held accountable for the events that led up to that”,
Yes. But that will not happen. Ever.
If you guys are so complacent when a piece of scum shits all over your constitution. Rips down your Whitehouse. Builds a fucking MMA stadium on the front garden. And talks about being president for life then you’re not going to do fuck all about all the accomplises and enablers after he’s finally dead.
“and events that have happened since, and we need to get serious as a whole population about antifascist education.”
Again. Won’t happen. Too complacent.
“some of us are being straight-up disappeared to South American torture prisons f”
I know. I saw the news about it and I -stupidly- thought “oh wow, this is it. This is what they need to get things moving” but tumbleweeds happened instead. Then the Renee Good and Alex Pretti murders happened and I thought “this is it etc etc etc” , and more tumbleweeds.
"“Sure, on weekends…”
Isn’t that correct? If memory serves then the only meaningful protests after all this happened at weekends. And there were, what, two of them? Three?
The thing is the ‘keyboard warrior’ was correct. And, like me, is exasperated and annoyed by the average americans apparent lack of effort in all this.
Instead of downvoting, attacking, and alienating them then try agreeing and bringing your point of view in a gentler way.
What country are you in?
The only solidarity we deserve after re-electing the orange fuck is a solid kick up the ass. This is on Americans to fix, and if we can’t fix it, the world doesn’t owe us shit.
No, I’m not into collective punishment. Maybe you voted for Trump, but I’ve been screaming against it this entire time. And I think you misunderstand solidarity, that isn’t collective either.
The citizens of other countries have their own lives to deal with, which are being made more complicated by the simple fact that screaming against it this entire time just was not enough.
They have no obligation to stand in solidarity with citizens of the country making their lives harder. This is not collective punishment, this is the predictable outcome of a series of events.
It’s like getting hit by an uninsured drunk driver: It may not be our fault, but it will be our responsibility to fix.