Drove from NoVA to the NW part of SC today in my 22 Bolt EUV. I used ABRP to route to chargers and put the addresses into Google maps to check reviews and GPS me there. The car is J1772/CCS, but I bought an adapter ahead of time to make use of Tesla/NACS chargers.
Unfortunately, this car only has a max charge rate of 55kW, so my refueling stops are either more frequent or longer than I would like, but I don’t do road trips often and this car was half the price of the ioniq I wanted.
I had one issue today. A Tesla supercharger I stopped at just wouldn’t initialize the charge. I even tried plugging into another one right next to it, but no dice. I’ve since learned that V2 superchargers won’t work with my car even with an adapter, so I guess that’s what that one was? I have no way of knowing. ABRP and Google maps don’t specify. Maybe the Tesla app does? Thankfully, there was an Electric America charger just a couple miles away, but I was pretty stressed out since I was pretty well drained and didn’t know where I was.
The hotel we’re at has level 2 chargers, so I shouldn’t need to deal with unfamiliar chargers again until we head back to NoVA. In the meantime, I’ve deselected NACS chargers from my ABRP vehicle options. It’s possible that my adapter just died after only a few successful uses, but the location I had an issue with had a review of somebody else being unable to charge, so I think it’s just that V2 issue.
In summary, the difference has been that it takes a little longer, it takes a little more planning and preparing, and there is a risk of some anxiety, but it’s easier to drive, less chance of “car trouble” events, and especially right now it is significantly cheaper to refuel. But get something that accepts at least 100kW charging lol. I think the ioniq does like 240kW? With that, you basically plug in, use the bathroom, grab a coffee, and you’re ready to go.
incredibly confusing* comment.
it’s too heavy? grid power fossil fuels? did you use ai to make this list? actually, i kinda hope you did, because yikes. ‘often times lack of servicability in certain areas’? what the fuck are you even saying? you want a propane based generator but lament grid fossil fuels? bro, this is utter nonsense.
*edit: original unnecessarily harsh, apologies.
Clearly you’re a city dweller who doesn’t understand people don’t all live in or near a major city smh.
A. Yes, apparently you didn’t realize that electric vehicle are often significantly heavier due to the massive battery packs. Look up the GMC Hummer weight, Cybertruck, even the Model Y is over 4000lbs (1891kg). This stresses smaller roads or did streets that aren’t built for the additional weight (some trucks surpassing 6000lbs) as well as the higher cost of special tires to handle the load and replacing more often.
B. Yes, not only are a lot of power plants burning fossil fuels, Trump rolled back regulations on coal, oil, and Natural gas, so they’re being used A LOT more now. Not everything is wind, solar, hydro, or nuclear. OH, also, xAI is using jet turbines to power its AI data centers in TX. I think it’s over 30 now. Task about a waste of fossil fuel… LPG, btw, is a by-product of the refining of natural gas, but burns far cleaner than oil with a lot less emissions. It could function as a direct oil replacement. If you ever rent a truck from Home Depot or Lowes, many of this are converted to propane to be cheaper to refuel.
C. Fuck no did I use AI for that list.
D. I had a customer buy an all electric KIA or Hyundai model a few years ago and when her battery had issues, the nearest dealer was over 50 miles away that has a certified tech to work on it. She eventually got the dealer to trade it back and got the hybrid. Now yes, this was a few years ago 2023) but still, not interested until other areas have improved.
So no, not utter nonsense, you’re just not educated or understand anything outside you’re little bubble.
B: so you’d rather have pollution at the plant and at home (though your car), rather than just at the plant? Got it
No, I’d rather not destroy the grid with the lack of support for ask these BEVs, depleting rare lithium, and work to resolve issues a stated above. Charging, OP pointed out, is at least greatly improved. But I don’t think several million cars/trucks, etc needing to tax the grid along with issues trying to support data centers, is the right path. Ask that means is the cost of electricity would sharply rise as everyone become dependent on that.
Overall, I think we need to focus on improving batteries, charging capability, and self a sufficient-ish with a hybrid system of sorts. Personally, I live in a truck and large SUV area and it freaking annoys me everyone buys stupidly large cars. New truck hoods are the height of my roof of my sedan. I wish people would go back to smaller more economical vehicles.
Your original point was about pollution. Now it suddenly shifted to the grid infrastructure and the rare (one of the most common elements on earth…) lithium.
Thanks. I’ve heard enough.
You seem pretty hostile which makes your statements come off as hate rather than anything else
Only hostile towards the ai.
He’s just fishing for excuses, they always default to an anecdotal story about a guy with an EV that is fabricated.
I have talked to a bunch of mechanics through the years. All of them told me to not buy an EV, because they once got one into their shop with a fucked battery, that cost a lot to replace. They seemingly don’t understand survivorship bias (or I suppose the opposite) when it’s an EV. Same people have seen brand new engines rendered completely useless, but no. It’s always a single broken battery that’s their reason for never owning an EV…
Right, my story about the Hyundai was TOTALLY fabricated, you’re so right! Definitely not a real-life run-in while working in the insurance world dealing with 100s of customers on a monthly basis.
Here’s another made up one just for fun and rather irrelevant. A guy had his Tesla serviced at work (I guess they came out to him bc there’s no dealership technically?) and noticed when he got back to his car, it was in a different spot. Customer asked how it drove and the tech said he didn’t need to drive it. Confused, the customer asked why his car was moved then and the tech got a little defensive. Customer dropped it, not wanting to cause trouble.
Comes in to my office a few days later, says he noticed some damage to his car, and tried to check camera footage, all of it was erased, like, nothing at all left. Called tesla and asked about recovering recordings and the data and they’re no help. Says impossible. 2nd level tech “restores” it and gives him a download link. Customer manages to get on flash drive but not know how to use it. Asked for help while filing a claim. All the video was for the complete wrong dates. In the end, no claim filed as there’s no real evidence or proof, and didn’t want to claim hit-and-run at work, either. I don’t recall, but idk if there was a way to check daily mileage on the app or something as proof more miles were driven on one day than another.
So basically tech took for a drive, caused damage, flees, parks it in wrong spot, wipes any video evidence, plays dumb. I think it’s super shady of Tesla to give techs remote access to get in anyone’s car, plus, I mean it’s run by a psycho pedo, so…
I enjoy my privacy, I enjoy keeping big brother at a distance. I am decently versed in both IT and insurance and knowing all the data these companies have on us is disgusting. I might even go as far as any “new” car to me, requesting any modems or eSIM be deactivated.
I CANT BELIEVE ANYONE WOULD DO SOMETHING I WOULDNT DO
A: complete non-issue.
B: entirely separate fight from ev vs ice vehicles. xai running methane generators doesn’t fuel evs anyway, why bring that up like it’s relevant? you choosing ice over ev isn’t helping the problem, either. and even if the only way we had to make electricity at all was fossil fuels, evs would still be more effiicient because power plants run huge generators at stable rates for peak efficiencies for far more power per unit of fossil fuel even accounting for power conversion loss. you also save on transporting tanker trucks of gas vs electricity over power lines.
C: good, but also yikes.
D: okay, this one is valid. it just made no sense as you first wrote it. still a minor inconvenience especially considering how fewer moving parts means far less often maintenance in the first place. and it’s another area like charging stations that has rapidly become more and more of a non-issue as adoption of the tech spreads.
i’ll give a pass on the insulting, as i regrettably went there first.