• becausechemistry@piefed.social
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      15 hours ago

      As with all terrorism, the lasting damage is self-inflicted by the overreacting victim.

      Turning every airport into the thin end of the fascist wedge, all the rampant surveillance stuff, and perpetual war in the middle east did quite a lot of structural damage to American democracy. I’m not sure we’d have elected the current dipshit-in-chief without 9/11 fifteen years earlier. We’d have kept electing publicly mostly boring and privately kinda shitty people for another few decades.

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      That’s tough. Policies like Citizen United were a direct result of 9/11 and contributed to hidden and foreign money, and more corruption in our elections which may have aided in Trump’s victory but has definitely benefitted the GOP takeover in Congress.

      On the flip side the damage Trump has done to the US has been incalculable. I don’t know if we’ll know the “correct” answer to this for another 15+ years. If significant positive change were to come from this, it wouldn’t nullify Trump’s actions, but it would certainly look different years later. I don’t see it happening, but until it doesn’t, there’s still a chance. There were no wins that came from 9/11.

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        14 hours ago

        If significant positive change were to come from this, it wouldn’t nullify Trump’s actions, but it would certainly look different years later.

        I hope given people are so disillusioned with Dems who run to the center and MAGA that leftism could have its moment in our lifetimes.

    • Daftydux@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      16 hours ago

      More and more i see trump for what he really is. Hes a bag man. Sure, its lucrative but still contrived. The GOP manipulates him by constantly pushing their agenda on him knowing he will just blindly seek power. Sure he gets fed a bone everytime but he takes all the heat, all the blame, and the GOP can enact their wet dream policy knowing they can walk away from MAGA any day. Its really the lesson Bush taught them. Bush was slaughtered in the media but once he was gone so was all the culpability.

      Trump is hand fed. Its almost admirable how devoted the GOP is to implement their agenda that no personal sacrifice from any one person in the party is too much. Too bad, they are evil. Thats the only way this strategy can work.