And the Andor series is literally a class on fascism. Things presented there are inspired by real world events. The second season in particular makes it REALLY clear. You literally have the Empire conspiring with media to produce propaganda to undermine the Ghorman people so the Empire can come in and steal the planet’s resources and kill the people. Then the Empire stages a massacre and uses it as further propaganda
In something like 45 years and countless movies, TV shows and various other forms of media, Andor is really the first one that actually takes on the politics of the Star Wars universe. As someone said, it makes all the other Star Wars shows seem like someone playing with their action figures.
I’ve only seen Andor so I don’t know if the lore was stated or implied in the original trilogy, but aren’t the rebellion an alliance of multiple revolutionary groups with different ideas for what comes after, but more broadly want to restore the Republic?
Andor was more poliyical than anything before in Star Wars. And even there, they had anarchists. (But yeah, they lean towards the system that got them the empire)
I mean, that system did last for a thousand years before the Empire came about, and a broadly similar system lasted for thousands more before that. Restoring the Republic doesn’t mean restoring it to the same state it was in immediately before it fell.
To be fair, even though the movies use words like “Empire” and “Rebels” the political world building in the first movie is paper thin. The focus is really on the boy becoming a hero, on having a big adventure. The empire is powerful and looks scary, but we never get into the actual system of government, and at no point do the rebels ever say they want to restore democracy. They just want to take down the empire.
It has always seemed to me like George Lucas painted himself into many corners with the first movie because he didn’t actually think about what these throw-away references meant. Like, people latched onto the term “The Clone Wars”, but I don’t think he ever thought about what that actually meant, other than some words that sounded cool together.
“The Imperial Senate will no longer be of any concern to us. I have just received word that the Emperor has dissolved the council permanently. The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.”
Grand Moff Tarkin in A New Hope, moments before starting the board meeting.
So we do get some glimpse into the state of government and how it’s been degraded. And then it’s not too far a stretch to figure what the Rebels are fighting for.
And it has also been worshiped constantly. There has been no event in the past where all of Christianity suddenly disappeared.
Also, since the translation of the Bible from Latin to common languages back in the Middle Ages, Christianity has become a whole lot less mysterious. It’s not mysterious today, it’s mundane.
The way A New Hope portrays Jedi (by the way characters talk about it), it sounds like Jedi have been a dying breed for a very long time, perhaps centuries, and now there’s just Obiwan and Vader. Turns out it was only a generation ago, and the reason why people consider it mysterious and distant is because nobody in the Galaxy has been exposed to Jedi as we the viewers have.
Don’t make Star Wars political… Except the rebels want to restore a democracy in the Original Trilogy…
And in the prequels we have literal political scenes, as written and directed by Lucas himself.
And the Andor series is literally a class on fascism. Things presented there are inspired by real world events. The second season in particular makes it REALLY clear. You literally have the Empire conspiring with media to produce propaganda to undermine the Ghorman people so the Empire can come in and steal the planet’s resources and kill the people. Then the Empire stages a massacre and uses it as further propaganda
In something like 45 years and countless movies, TV shows and various other forms of media, Andor is really the first one that actually takes on the politics of the Star Wars universe. As someone said, it makes all the other Star Wars shows seem like someone playing with their action figures.
Technically, it’s never stated which form of government (if any) the rebellion wants to create after the empire is gone.
Hmm… But we do know a princess and at least one ex senator leads the rebellion.
One ex-senator also leads the empire
I don’t think that there’s anything close to a positively defined political agenda in the original text. At least none that were there on purpose.
The princess was also a senator.
I’ve only seen Andor so I don’t know if the lore was stated or implied in the original trilogy, but aren’t the rebellion an alliance of multiple revolutionary groups with different ideas for what comes after, but more broadly want to restore the Republic?
Andor was more poliyical than anything before in Star Wars. And even there, they had anarchists. (But yeah, they lean towards the system that got them the empire)
I mean, that system did last for a thousand years before the Empire came about, and a broadly similar system lasted for thousands more before that. Restoring the Republic doesn’t mean restoring it to the same state it was in immediately before it fell.
Even directly quoting Bush Jr at one point.
To be fair, even though the movies use words like “Empire” and “Rebels” the political world building in the first movie is paper thin. The focus is really on the boy becoming a hero, on having a big adventure. The empire is powerful and looks scary, but we never get into the actual system of government, and at no point do the rebels ever say they want to restore democracy. They just want to take down the empire.
It has always seemed to me like George Lucas painted himself into many corners with the first movie because he didn’t actually think about what these throw-away references meant. Like, people latched onto the term “The Clone Wars”, but I don’t think he ever thought about what that actually meant, other than some words that sounded cool together.
“The Imperial Senate will no longer be of any concern to us. I have just received word that the Emperor has dissolved the council permanently. The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.”
So we do get some glimpse into the state of government and how it’s been degraded. And then it’s not too far a stretch to figure what the Rebels are fighting for.
A theocracy under the Jedi religion?
No. A New Hope gave the impression Jedi were much older and mysterious than recent events.
Christianity is much older and more mysterious than recent events, but a lot of people want to make the USA a christian theocracy.
And it has also been worshiped constantly. There has been no event in the past where all of Christianity suddenly disappeared.
Also, since the translation of the Bible from Latin to common languages back in the Middle Ages, Christianity has become a whole lot less mysterious. It’s not mysterious today, it’s mundane.
The way A New Hope portrays Jedi (by the way characters talk about it), it sounds like Jedi have been a dying breed for a very long time, perhaps centuries, and now there’s just Obiwan and Vader. Turns out it was only a generation ago, and the reason why people consider it mysterious and distant is because nobody in the Galaxy has been exposed to Jedi as we the viewers have.