• FlyingCircus@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      If a bar has Nazis, it’s a Nazi bar. If the Dems are collaborating with Nazis, as this latest move certainly makes it seem, then they are also Nazis.

      • MTK@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        Even between Nazis there are levels. You wouldn’t put Hitler and some german citizen that voted for him at the same level, both suck but are not the same.

        Democrats have definitely shown to not be as bad as Republicans. The system is broken but you can choose to say “It’s all the same, so I won’t do shit” or you can choose to acknowledge that even within this shitty system, there are better and worse options.

        • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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          They might not be on the same level but I still wouldn’t vote for someone who supported Hitler. This lesser-evilism is literally how Hitler came to power in the first place, the social democrats supported Hindenburg for president as a lesser evil to stop Hitler and then Hindenburg just appointed Hitler as chancellor anyway.

          • MTK@lemmy.world
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            6 months ago

            I’m not saying to vote for the next Democrat puppet. I’m saying that pretending that democrats are the same or worse than republicans is a ridiculous claim. I’m all for something sane that breaks us out of this shit.

    • EmpireInDecay@lemmy.mlOP
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      6 months ago

      Reform is a tool deployed by the oligarchy to stay in power. It stops progress and results in incremental fascism disguised as a lesser evil. Reform gives the illusion that voters have a part in deciding political outcomes despite several studies showing voters have zero influence in politicians and their policies.

      • stickly@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        Cool cool, so why does voting vs not voting matter? What actionable alternatives would you suggest and why do those preclude checking a box on a piece of paper?

        I’d argue that even an illusory vote has value as a public barometer. If 80% of a voter base is consistently voting against the incumbent party it tells you way more about their discontent than 80% not showing up.

    • Ademir@lemmy.eco.br
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      6 months ago

      You are confusing MLs with anarchists. MLs always think of the strategic importance of elections and choosing the lesser of evils.

    • EmpireInDecay@lemmy.mlOP
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      6 months ago

      They didn’t shut down government to save the ACA, they shut down government to win a couple of elections. Thousands of federal employees went over a month without pay so they could win a couple of elections. They denied SNAP benefits to 42,000 people so they could win a couple of elections. And now that those elections are over, they have voted to reopen government with absolutely none of their demands being met.

      And Bernie Sanders can go fuck himself. He is nothing but a sheep dog to the fascist oligarchy

  • MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    8 Senators don’t vote the way you want and now EVERY Democrat is a fascist.

    Embarrassing childish fucking nonsense.