• JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca
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    4 days ago

    Game is dead now, the devs introduced aggression based matchmaking because lots of us were sick of pointless pvp, that initially made it better, then sweats figured out how to game the matchmaking and get peaceful lobbies and just kill everyone. Haven’t made it through a run in weeks so I just stopped playing, after more than 100 hours. If you like the sweatiest Rust players, ARC is awesome.

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      4 days ago

      You can only game it once, then you get put back in the shit for a while. Only had one game where a team was aggressive in a PVE lobby. They cleaned up because nobody shot back.

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      4 days ago

      This 100%. I bought it as soon as it came out because all of the testing done was PvE, so I assumed it was a PvE cooperative extraction game. I uninstalled after like 20 hours because of the PvP. Then I started playing again when they fixed matchmaking, and after about another 80 hours, I quit again after I kept getting ganked in “friendly” lobbies. My g/f still plays it and is constantly trying to talk it up, and I refuse to touch it until there is an option for PvE, and to turn PvP play off.

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          4 days ago

          I killed 1 player. It was at the water treatment extraction point on damn battlegrounds. Everyone said they were friendly. Elevator pops up, and one guy takes out his guns and starts shooting. I managed to be in a spot where I had good cover and a line of sight to his head. I knew I was in a better position. I told him to stop shooting or I would shoot back. He didn’t stop shooting. I popped off my trusty anvil and he went down after a single shot to the head. My pack was full, so I didn’t bother knocking him out or trying to loot him. Aside from that, I did occasionally find raiders that were already dead, but they were always already looted too.

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            3 days ago

            A lot of players are done playing PVE only and want to PvP to keep playing. This has drastically reduced the pool of peaceful lobbies. Any aggro rating above a 0 will put you into a PvP lobby now. So if you want PVE only, you don’t get to shoot back or loot raiders without your next 10 games being PvP. When you go in a mob a care bear lobby, your next 20 games are PvP. In the rare occasion that someone attacked me in a PVE lobby, they wipe out everyone, I mean everyone. Not one of us shoot back. They usually find the players working together to hunt arc and kill them all in one spot. In a duo game, a team killed 10+ all in one spot, without any resistance. On the flip side when I play a PvP game, I would hate going into a lobby where nobody shot back. That is not fun at all. The people mobbing peaceful lobbies are griefers at their core and not actual PvPers.

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              3 days ago

              Sorry, but there are many players that WANT PvE. Most of them have given up and moved on because the devs didn’t listen to their feedback.

              This is also my issue with the matchmaking system. Because when I defend myself I’m more likely to land in a PvP lobby. So what, my only choice is just let them kill me, or be thrown into PvP matches I already don’t want to play in. No, I’m cool with not playing. The Devs could have implemented PvE mode to fix this, but they didn’t. Eventually the griefers will drive everyone else away, and the game can die. Worst $40 I ever spent.