No you didn’t, you gave an example of regulation not prohibition and regulation can work because it still gives people the freedom of choice but helps to regulate things within areas that are problems for society, like your example.
Again you seem to think you can just speak on behalf of millions of people. I don’t think cocaine is worth the effort personally but that doesn’t mean there isn’t a massive global black market for it.
You seem to be missing my point entirely, I’m not sure if intentionally just to try and support your naive point of view. The point is prohibition is always bad because it is used as a form of social control, the reason that pretty much all drugs are outlawed recreationally is because in the past the unwashed masses have enjoyed them for different reasons and therefore the “state” have implemented laws against these things as a form of social control.
To go along with that they fill the populous full of lies to try and support their position and to try and turn the people against each other and create dissent amongst people and thus creating things like class wars to keep them distracted. If governments truely had the best interests of the populous at heart then they would regulate substances properly and supply people with correct and factual data to allow people to make clear and informed decisions about what they choose to consume instead of running bullshit campaigns like the infamous reefer madness or scaremongering people into thinking they will instantly be addicted or die whilst also pedalling far more harmful and addictive substances alongside.
Regulation also takes away even more dangers to society because people can now purchase properly manufactured substances that have been made within an environment that promotes safety through regulation rather than buying something that has been cut with brick dust or plaster board powder to maximise profits in a non regulated black market.
Regulation also applies to the companies selling the products, although part of the problem with tobacco companies massive influence is the bullshit system that is capitalism but that is another subject entirely.
These are just a few examples, I haven’t even touched upon the increased revenue for society as a whole due to taxing these products and the knock on positive effects of that or how proper systems of education and care can help prevent so many issues across the spectrum.
Prohibition under the guise of helping people or protecting kids is always a move to oppress people and is never a positive thing for society as a whole, just look at the bullshit that is this push for age verification under the guise of “protecting the kids” that is going on at the moment. I think you need to take a step back and really assess what is going on behind decisions like this because it is more a move towards “monarchy” or total control of a populous and freedoms ever will be like you seem to think.
I gave you an example of a compromise that works. This is a compromise too.
UK chose it’s government democratically, didn’t they? Hence what it does is the closest approximation to the will of people. I’m speaking for them. We want people to self organise to collectively fight against the oppression and that’s what happened.
I’m glad there are little guys fighting the good fight for the tobacco industry, must be fun.
Not really, a system that employs first past the post and a house of fucking lords that is based on blood lines is it really the closest approximation of the will of the people?
I couldn’t care less about the tobacco industry I’m arguing for the peoples right to choose what they do with their own bodies, there is a big difference but cool. Have a good day :)
First past the post is a system that has many faults but also benefits like continuity of policies and less deadlocks. I don’t think it’s a good system but it is democratic and won’t prevent a eventual change that people want, see the currently ongoing change in French politics for example.
I think there are better uses of your freedom than advocating that people should be free to be scammed by big corporations because that doesn’t sound like freedom at all. They’d be more free if they didn’t waste money on a pointless drug. They could even purchase more useful drugs with that money.
No you didn’t, you gave an example of regulation not prohibition and regulation can work because it still gives people the freedom of choice but helps to regulate things within areas that are problems for society, like your example.
Again you seem to think you can just speak on behalf of millions of people. I don’t think cocaine is worth the effort personally but that doesn’t mean there isn’t a massive global black market for it.
You seem to be missing my point entirely, I’m not sure if intentionally just to try and support your naive point of view. The point is prohibition is always bad because it is used as a form of social control, the reason that pretty much all drugs are outlawed recreationally is because in the past the unwashed masses have enjoyed them for different reasons and therefore the “state” have implemented laws against these things as a form of social control.
To go along with that they fill the populous full of lies to try and support their position and to try and turn the people against each other and create dissent amongst people and thus creating things like class wars to keep them distracted. If governments truely had the best interests of the populous at heart then they would regulate substances properly and supply people with correct and factual data to allow people to make clear and informed decisions about what they choose to consume instead of running bullshit campaigns like the infamous reefer madness or scaremongering people into thinking they will instantly be addicted or die whilst also pedalling far more harmful and addictive substances alongside.
Regulation also takes away even more dangers to society because people can now purchase properly manufactured substances that have been made within an environment that promotes safety through regulation rather than buying something that has been cut with brick dust or plaster board powder to maximise profits in a non regulated black market.
Regulation also applies to the companies selling the products, although part of the problem with tobacco companies massive influence is the bullshit system that is capitalism but that is another subject entirely.
These are just a few examples, I haven’t even touched upon the increased revenue for society as a whole due to taxing these products and the knock on positive effects of that or how proper systems of education and care can help prevent so many issues across the spectrum.
Prohibition under the guise of helping people or protecting kids is always a move to oppress people and is never a positive thing for society as a whole, just look at the bullshit that is this push for age verification under the guise of “protecting the kids” that is going on at the moment. I think you need to take a step back and really assess what is going on behind decisions like this because it is more a move towards “monarchy” or total control of a populous and freedoms ever will be like you seem to think.
I gave you an example of a compromise that works. This is a compromise too.
UK chose it’s government democratically, didn’t they? Hence what it does is the closest approximation to the will of people. I’m speaking for them. We want people to self organise to collectively fight against the oppression and that’s what happened.
I’m glad there are little guys fighting the good fight for the tobacco industry, must be fun.
Not really, a system that employs first past the post and a house of fucking lords that is based on blood lines is it really the closest approximation of the will of the people?
I couldn’t care less about the tobacco industry I’m arguing for the peoples right to choose what they do with their own bodies, there is a big difference but cool. Have a good day :)
First past the post is a system that has many faults but also benefits like continuity of policies and less deadlocks. I don’t think it’s a good system but it is democratic and won’t prevent a eventual change that people want, see the currently ongoing change in French politics for example.
I think there are better uses of your freedom than advocating that people should be free to be scammed by big corporations because that doesn’t sound like freedom at all. They’d be more free if they didn’t waste money on a pointless drug. They could even purchase more useful drugs with that money.
Your brain is my drugs. I think I’ll pass this time. Mostly because legality is Ledger.