Not really, a system that employs first past the post and a house of fucking lords that is based on blood lines is it really the closest approximation of the will of the people?

I couldn’t care less about the tobacco industry I’m arguing for the peoples right to choose what they do with their own bodies, there is a big difference but cool. Have a good day :)

No you didn’t, you gave an example of regulation not prohibition and regulation can work because it still gives people the freedom of choice but helps to regulate things within areas that are problems for society, like your example.

Again you seem to think you can just speak on behalf of millions of people. I don’t think cocaine is worth the effort personally but that doesn’t mean there isn’t a massive global black market for it.

You seem to be missing my point entirely, I’m not sure if intentionally just to try and support your naive point of view. The point is prohibition is always bad because it is used as a form of social control, the reason that pretty much all drugs are outlawed recreationally is because in the past the unwashed masses have enjoyed them for different reasons and therefore the “state” have implemented laws against these things as a form of social control.

To go along with that they fill the populous full of lies to try and support their position and to try and turn the people against each other and create dissent amongst people and thus creating things like class wars to keep them distracted. If governments truely had the best interests of the populous at heart then they would regulate substances properly and supply people with correct and factual data to allow people to make clear and informed decisions about what they choose to consume instead of running bullshit campaigns like the infamous reefer madness or scaremongering people into thinking they will instantly be addicted or die whilst also pedalling far more harmful and addictive substances alongside.

Regulation also takes away even more dangers to society because people can now purchase properly manufactured substances that have been made within an environment that promotes safety through regulation rather than buying something that has been cut with brick dust or plaster board powder to maximise profits in a non regulated black market.

Regulation also applies to the companies selling the products, although part of the problem with tobacco companies massive influence is the bullshit system that is capitalism but that is another subject entirely.

These are just a few examples, I haven’t even touched upon the increased revenue for society as a whole due to taxing these products and the knock on positive effects of that or how proper systems of education and care can help prevent so many issues across the spectrum.

Prohibition under the guise of helping people or protecting kids is always a move to oppress people and is never a positive thing for society as a whole, just look at the bullshit that is this push for age verification under the guise of “protecting the kids” that is going on at the moment. I think you need to take a step back and really assess what is going on behind decisions like this because it is more a move towards “monarchy” or total control of a populous and freedoms ever will be like you seem to think.

Then you under estimate people entirely! Take weed as an example which is drastically less addictive than nicotine and yet there is a thriving black market for that to the point that people in some Asian countries risk (and recently did get) execution to supply it to people.

To say there are still nicotine products available too doesn’t really address it either. As an ex smoker myself I would take a cigarette over any of the other nicotine products available, any day of the week. It doesn’t matter that most people hate the taste or smell or whatever, there will still be plenty of people that also prefer it regardless of your thoughts about it. Also it is called the “tobacco and capes bill” which implies it isn’t just traditional cigarettes but it also doesn’t make it clear either way

Add on top of that why should a government be dictating what people put into their bodies, people should have the right to buy and consume whatever they like. Fair enough ban its use in public so it isn’t actively effecting anyone else but what people do in their own homes is their own choice.

If you want to try the strain and cost to healthcare services argument as well then why aren’t you banning alcohol too as that is one of the most problematic substances in the world in terms of being the most addictive and most physically damaging to people. So that argument is dead in the water.

Banning sale at certain times is very different from an outright ban as well. That still allows people to make the choice they want regarding what they want to consume, they just have to get it according to a schedule which, as you say, does help in terms of anti social behaviour at the like if people who ate already fucked up can’t get more to continue on down that road.

All this is is another authoritarian move to dictate what people can and can’t do with their own lives and own bodies under the guise of “helping people” or “helping society” all the while things like alcohol which is statistically one of the worst substances out there is allowed because it is more socially acceptable.

Because prohibition has a history of working really well and doesn’t at all create black markets that are far worse for peoples health /s

Oh, shame, but thanks for the info!

Have they added support for any watches yet? I have had my eye in this for ages as I’d love to try it but haven’t checked in a while!

If a business only has some shitty Instagram or Facebook page or wants to only be contactable via WhatsApp then they don’t deserve my fucking business.